| 6 Oct 2024 |
 maralorn | The difference is, that basically all bumps to Haskell packages are part of a mass batch update. We can probably be a bit less strict about forcing small fixes to got o haskell-updates, but honestly I already am. I have a relatively quick merge finger and do a judgement call on every of those PRs. | 12:42:21 |
 emily | right | 12:43:03 |
| emily | I thought we track Stackage LTS? isn't that more a once every month or two thing? | 12:43:27 |
| maralorn | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I thought we track Stackage LTS? isn't that more a once every month or two thing? Well.
a) Stackage LTS minor releases are about once per week
b) half of our building packages are not pinned in stackage, they are just fetched from hackage and that has updates all around the clock.
| 12:45:54 |
| maralorn | i.e. Stackage only covers a small part of the whole ecosystem. | 12:46:38 |
| maralorn | * i.e. Stackage only covers a small part of the whole ecosystem, roughly 1/6th | 12:47:00 |
| emily | oh right, minor releases | 12:47:34 |
| maralorn | Stackage major releases otoh are more of a once to twice a year thing. | 12:48:19 |
| emily | I'm going to have to deal with this problem at some point soon when I get around to trying to do the Rust crates as separate packages thing, since obviously there all the updates are uncoordinated | 12:48:14 |
| emily | and bumps often require bumps to other crates | 12:48:28 |
| emily | I'd like to avoid a batch process/branch and just send things to master/staging, but we'll see what actually works out… | 12:48:40 |
| maralorn | I feel like I am very often in the "no it can’t be better because XY" position in these discussions. But I am actually very exited for any actual improvement if we can achieve it. | 12:50:12 |
| emily | it's tough :) | 12:52:09 |
| emily | from the inside you know all the reasons why people's preconceptions about the process and what will work are wrong. from the outside, sometimes you can see that the people on the inside are stuck in their own assumptions | 12:52:45 |
| maralorn | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
from the inside you know all the reasons why people's preconceptions about the process and what will work are wrong. from the outside, sometimes you can see that the people on the inside are stuck in their own assumptions Exactly | 12:53:06 |
| emily | many a time I have been on the inside saying "nope, you can't do better than that", only to be blindsided when some person I've never heard of before comes along and does better in ways I would have said would never work 😅 | 12:53:32 |
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| 7 Oct 2024 |
 cdepillabout | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
many a time I have been on the inside saying "nope, you can't do better than that", only to be blindsided when some person I've never heard of before comes along and does better in ways I would have said would never work 😅 I totally get this. Just the other day I replied to someone on one of my repos saying it wouldn't be technically possible to fix one of the issues they had opened. Only to realize a few minutes later they had already sent a PR fixing the issue I thought couldn't be fixed 🤕 | 06:00:33 |
| emily | this PR clearly does not exist closes | 06:01:35 |
