| 29 Mar 2026 |
 sterni (he/him) | on x86_64-linux | 10:28:10 |
| sterni (he/him) | found a GHC 9.12.4 panic -.- | 12:03:20 |
| sterni (he/him) | * found a GHC 9.12.4 panic -.- https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/27121 | 12:40:58 |
 alexfmpe | Sigh | 12:45:44 |
| alexfmpe | https://gitlab.haskell.org/ghc/ghc/-/issues/27061#note_666912 | 12:49:06 |
| alexfmpe | This really needs to hapoen | 12:49:31 |
| alexfmpe | We even have a bunch of cross platforms with one-line level of support | 12:50:17 |
| alexfmpe | How do we dump all that on ghc hq as a regression test suite or whatever | 12:50:50 |
 chreekat | This is the kind of thing that needs a gsoc project | 12:54:30 |
| alexfmpe | Hehehe | 12:58:19 |
| alexfmpe | Somewhat related, I wonder if the ghc.nix shell could be massively reduced by being based in the shell for our hadrian derivation or something. | 13:02:15 |
| alexfmpe | Not sure if relevant here but when opening issues on ghc I tend to add a nixpkgs hash and the invocation just in case they can't reproduce it out of the box | 13:06:10 |
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| sterni (he/him) | alexfmpe: well I did test it ahead of time, but I only tried a couple of packages that were affected by the subword division issue and cabal2nix iirc | 18:19:53 |
| 30 Mar 2026 |
|  Big man joined the room. | 04:41:17 |
 MangoIV | It can be. It just grew organically over many years. | 08:48:09 |
 Janus | I am wondering whether the plan is for nixpkgs to patch packages using memory to use ram instead? That would be interesting to see, as it could provide a relatively painless experience compared to all the builds currently failing (when mixing these) using the cabal solver... | 08:49:21 |
 maralorn | Janus: We are generally very conservative about doing switches like that. | 10:32:49 |
| maralorn | sterni: I am sorry, that I can’t be of more help right now. But it’s simply too much. I still intend to ramp up my engagement when I got everything else under control. | 10:34:03 |
| maralorn | I was wondering about the nightly switch you suggested. If we did one know could we push it through until branch-off? | 10:34:37 |
| maralorn | * I was wondering about the nightly switch you suggested. If we did one now could we push it through until branch-off? | 10:34:54 |
| maralorn | Seems a bit tight to me. So maybe we should wait and do it immediately after? | 10:35:27 |
| Janus | Aww that's too bad! Because I think that Vincent is being deliberately difficult to work with. I do understand the Hackage position, but I also know nixpkgs doesn't have any issue with adding downstream jailbreaks, which, in my mind, is a related tradeoff. | 10:59:55 |
| maralorn | Maybe we can be more flexible with memory/ram, with crypton/cryptonite our stance was that security critical decisions have to be made by upstream. | 11:02:53 |
| sterni (he/him) | we did on occasion patch stuff, but IIRC only when it was clear those patches were on their way to being upstreamed and released. | 11:03:33 |
| sterni (he/him) | I don't really see the point in investing time in patching packages that will never be changed upstream since this just means a lot of time down the drain when everyone else will need to get away from those packages anyways | 11:04:24 |
| sterni (he/him) | So basically I'd say we should just decide this on a case by case basis. | 11:04:40 |
| sterni (he/him) | maralorn: given the GHC 9.12.4 panic we encountered now, I also am not confident | 11:06:17 |
| sterni (he/him) | but maybe we should start the migration and see how it works out until the cut off point though I think we'd need to be finished by the end of April more or less since e.g. the pandoc upgrade seems a little risky to do so late | 11:08:52 |
| sterni (he/him) | We could look into upgrading some packages (pandoc, hledger, …?) before branch off so we are not horribly outdated on that front at least | 11:09:52 |
