| 25 May 2021 |
 maralorn | Yeah, should actually be doable. | 16:09:22 |
 sterni (he/him) | I'm not sure what impact this will have, we'll have less of a share advantage over other jobsets, but also more percentage in shares overall | 16:09:34 |
| sterni (he/him) | idk never felt the impact of shares before so who knows | 16:09:49 |
| maralorn | Other idea btw: we can theoretically find packages requiring a jail break algorithmically. We could us that to a) mark them broken before they even failed once and b) mark them automatically unbroken as soon as they build again. So a temp incompatibility like now with random will not disable a package permanently. | 16:12:30 |
| sterni (he/him) | yeah that could be interesting | 16:12:54 |
 srid | Anyone fancy trying some Haskell stuff here?
Utilizing the power of Nix, every repl comes preloaded with over 30,000 packages. Adding a package is as simple as adding it as a dependency in the replit.nix file. https://lobste.rs/s/dy4x1c/how_we_went_from_supporting_50_languages
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|  zwro changed their display name from z to yin. | 18:05:13 |
 utdemir | srid: seems to work as expected https://replit.com/@utdemir/nix-hs . My first impressions:
- There's not much magic going on, they pretty much only installed Nix with a mounted /nix/store.
- Run command simply runs
nix-shell .. --run '..', so I guess when the Nix expression becomes larger it'd be annoying to wait for Nix evaluation every time you run something.
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| 26 May 2021 |
 cdepillabout | maralorn sterni (he/him) For haskell-updates, it looks like everything in maintained and mergeable is now building (or correctly marked broken). We have the choice of merging haskell-updates into master now (only after of course checking that merging would cause no eval errors), or merging master into haskell-updates and waiting for Hydra to work through all the builds again. | 01:44:31 |
| cdepillabout | I'm leaning towards merging haskell-updates into master. But I don't really have a good idea of how risky it is, or what peti would normally do. | 01:45:50 |
| cdepillabout | * I'm leaning towards merging haskell-updates into master. But I don't really have a good idea of how risky it is, or what peti would normally do. Do either of you guys have an opinion here? | 01:46:29 |
 bqv | > Other idea btw: we can theoretically find packages requiring a jail break algorithmically. We could us that to a) mark them broken before they even failed once and b) mark them automatically unbroken as soon as they build again. So a temp incompatibility like now with random will not disable a package permanently.
PLEASE fucking do it | 03:33:52 |
| bqv | This shit's a plague | 03:33:58 |
|  ashleyis joined the room. | 03:59:11 |
 joe (he/him) | I wonder what would happen if only breaking changes which don't change types required a major version bump... | 04:23:51 |
| joe (he/him) | obviously it's no good for build planning | 04:24:05 |
| joe (he/him) | Or similarly: If a package needs to be jailbroken, don't "just do it" if the types haven't changed | 04:24:56 |
 berberman | Hi, haskell-language-server recently upgrades apply-refact to 0.9.3.0, which was released 2021-05-21, but it seems that haskell-updates does not have this new version yet. When will haskell-updates update? Will "Haskell updates #123682" include this? | 05:46:08 |
| maralorn | In reply to @cdepillabout:matrix.org
I'm leaning towards merging haskell-updates into master. But I don't really have a good idea of how risky it is, or what peti would normally do. Do either of you guys have an opinion here? From all I can tell peti never gave a frack about rebuilds. Just merge it.^^ | 08:52:34 |
| maralorn | In reply to @_xmpp_qy=40xa0.uk:matrix.org
This shit's a plague Can you elaborate what exactly annoys you most? | 08:53:53 |
|  fabfianda changed their display name from Fab to fabfianda. | 09:01:07 |
| maralorn | The problem is that this would be a moderately invasive operation on cabal2nix/hackage2nix and none of us maintainers has a lot of free time or familarity with the code base. So any outside help on this topic would be appreciated. | 09:01:35 |
| maralorn | In reply to @berberman:mozilla.org
Hi, haskell-language-server recently upgrades apply-refact to 0.9.3.0, which was released 2021-05-21, but it seems that haskell-updates does not have this new version yet. When will haskell-updates update? Will "Haskell updates #123682" include this? No, I don‘t think so. We do an update roughly every 2 weeks. | 09:02:53 |
| maralorn | berberman: Here is a description of our current progress: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/121140#issuecomment-830816599 | 09:08:02 |
| maralorn | * berberman: Here is a description of our current process: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/121140#issuecomment-830816599 | 09:08:19 |
| maralorn | cdepillabout: Your PRs currently reference the HACKING.md which does not yet exist in the repo. | 09:08:39 |
| berberman | maralorn: I see, thank you! | 09:09:11 |
| joe (he/him) | Thanks for keeping Haskell+Nix so great! | 09:21:05 |
| joe (he/him) | There should be a pizza/beer fund to be used by the person doing the merge every period | 09:28:31 |
|  immae (he/him) changed their display name from immae to immae (he/him). | 10:13:07 |
