| 2 Jun 2021 |
 Las | I remember reading on HN some comment by Arathorn about them going to do something about it | 14:42:01 |
| Las | But that's probably a few months/years into the future | 14:42:17 |
 maralorn | And when I think about how difficult zoom calls with a few dozens of people can be when they have different zoom versions. I am a bit afraid of client diversity in that point. "Please vote with thumbs up. We have 8 different guides in our wiki …" | 14:43:02 |
 sterni (he/him) | In light of ZuriHac I wrote up my thoughts on platform handling in hackage2nix: https://github.com/NixOS/cabal2nix/issues/497 I plan to get to this eventually, but maybe someone else is motivated to start to work on it | 14:54:12 |
|  bqv changed their display name from bqv to qy. | 14:56:12 |
| bqv changed their display name from qy to bqv. | 14:56:14 |
| sterni (he/him) | While writing it up I also realized that my 4th point in the list which was semi-actionable would just disappear if we do the other things which is always good :) | 14:56:30 |
| maralorn | I have to admit that I don‘t grasp all details and consequences of it. But it superficially it sounds like a reasonable next step. | 14:58:05 |
| sterni (he/him) | I'd be happy to clarify anything / reword the issue if anything is unclear | 14:59:25 |
| maralorn | I just don‘t know what meta.badPlatforms is. | 15:00:16 |
| sterni (he/him) | maralorn: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/1834bc871199fc6583cf270474aacbda9e5127f2/pkgs/stdenv/generic/check-meta.nix#L58-L60 | 15:17:13 |
| sterni (he/him) | basically if the platform you are trying to build a pkg for is either not in platforms or in badPlatforms it will create an unsupported system error | 15:17:45 |
|  dschrempf joined the room. | 15:19:51 |
| sterni (he/him) | In reply to @sternenseemann:systemli.org
Since builds are getting done now pretty quickly, I'm gonna wait for the darwin builds, then hopefully merge master again later today, hope that in the 1000 commits nothing triggers any major rebuilds and finish this cycle pretty quickly hopefully Merged master, 261 builds to go, so looking good! Hopefully I can merge before I have to help moving this evening. | 15:24:35 |
| sterni (he/him) | In reply to @sternenseemann:systemli.org
Since builds are getting done now pretty quickly, I'm gonna wait for the darwin builds, then hopefully merge master again later today, hope that in the 1000 commits nothing triggers any major rebuilds and finish this cycle pretty quickly hopefully * Merged master, 261 builds to go, so looking good! Hopefully I can merge before I have to help a friend moving this evening. | 15:24:52 |
 srid | What's all the hype with Nix? | 16:07:38 |
| bqv changed their display name from bqv to qy. | 16:08:36 |
| bqv changed their display name from qy to bqv. | 16:08:38 |
| sterni (he/him) | inb4 the negative article is https://hands-on.cloud/why-you-should-never-ever-use-nixos/ | 16:09:37 |
| maralorn | xD | 16:11:55 |
| sterni (he/him) | how is that one still one of the first google results for nixos | 16:12:42 |
| Las | https://github.com/haskell-gi/haskell-gi/tree/master/examples/Gtk4
It has already begun. | 16:18:38 |
| sterni (he/him) | Merged! Gotta run soon so not sure if I'll be able to open the new one right away | 17:07:28 |
 cdepillabout | In reply to @sternenseemann:systemli.org
inb4 the negative article is https://hands-on.cloud/why-you-should-never-ever-use-nixos/
Determinism
All it’s determinism is about that it deterministically gives you a lot of issues, which you need to overcome manually without any support.
Haha, I thought this was a pretty funny line.
| 17:39:50 |
| maralorn | It’s just sad because people we get pushed away from nix very hard if this is the first thing they will read. | 17:47:35 |
 Roos | They raise valid points, but I find it heavely opinionated on the this is they way I've been doing for 10 years, why can't I keep doing it? | 17:48:57 |
| Roos | Also, I was really sad when I read Aaand, yes, service configuration file also need to be declared using Nix expression language
This is simply not true: first cause you can use Nix without NixOS and second because you can always embed your custom .service file :/
| 17:50:12 |
 pennae | seen that article too when we started with nix and immediately discounted it for being just an angry rant | 17:55:12 |
| sterni (he/him) | New PR: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/125429 | 22:19:52 |
| sterni (he/him) | Did anything break while I was away? :) | 22:20:25 |
