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@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb When exeucuting nix build github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable#hello I would like nix build to print the revision that it used (to have a reproducible copy-pastable output). There doesn't seem to be an option? How do I do that? 20:08:33
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb * When exeucuting nix build github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable#hello I would like nix build to print the revision that it used, i.e. the hash that "nixos-unstable" referred to at the time of invocation, (to have a reproducible copy-pastable output). There doesn't seem to be an option? How do I do that? 20:23:57
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb * When exeucuting nix build github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-unstable#hello I would like nix build to print the revision that it used, i.e. the hash that "nixos-unstable" referred to at the time of invocation, to have a reproducible copy-pastable output. There doesn't seem to be an option? How do I do that? 20:25:15
@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsds make an alias? 20:26:33
@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsds nix registry may be the place to look 20:26:57
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb
In reply to @pederbs:pvv.ntnu.no
nix registry may be the place to look
I'd like a solution that works both for flakes that are in the registry and for ones that are not. The requirement to know which revision was used isn't that crazy, is it?
20:27:54
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb
In reply to @pederbs:pvv.ntnu.no
nix registry may be the place to look
* I'd like a solution that works both for flakes that are in the registry and for ones that are not. The question which revision was used isn't that crazy, is it?
20:28:03
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb
In reply to @pederbs:pvv.ntnu.no
make an alias?
You mean a shell alias? An alias from what to what? I don't know an that gives me the output I want. I could call nix flake show right before/after I call nix build, but that's racy.
20:30:00
@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsdsYou use the resolved flake url in nix build20:53:01
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb

One nice property of flakes is that I can address them as github:edolstra/hello, that's something I can remember as a human. This reference changes over time and is not reproducible. Whenever I call nix build github:edolstra/hello, Nix must inevitably somehow resolve this reference to a concrete revision. The concrete revision is a long hexadecimal string I cannot remember. Therefore I do see value in nix build to, when requested, just print the revision. Then, I can share its output (which now includes the resolved URL, which includes the hash) to my teammates, who can run the same build even if the revision that the default branch of github:edolstra/hello resolves to has changed in the meantime.

It's not a question of whether there is a possibility to somehow obtain a fully resolved flake URL, and that it can be provided as an argument to nix build, but a matter of convenience of the user experience with nix build.

20:58:37
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb *

One nice property of flakes is that I can address them as github:edolstra/hello, that's something I can remember as a human. This reference changes over time and is not reproducible. Whenever I call nix build github:edolstra/hello, Nix must inevitably somehow resolve this reference to a concrete revision. The concrete revision contains a long hexadecimal string I cannot remember. Therefore I do see value in nix build to, when requested, just print the revision. Then, I can share its output (which now includes the resolved URL, which includes the hash) to my teammates, who can run the same build even if the revision that the default branch of github:edolstra/hello resolves to has changed in the meantime.

It's not a question of whether there is a possibility to somehow obtain a fully resolved flake URL, and that it can be provided as an argument to nix build, but a matter of convenience of the user experience with nix build.

20:58:59
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb *

One nice property of flakes is that I can address them as github:edolstra/hello, that's something I can remember as a human. This reference changes over time and is not reproducible. Whenever I call nix build github:edolstra/hello, Nix must inevitably somehow resolve this reference to a concrete revision. The concrete revision contains a long hexadecimal string I cannot remember. Therefore I do see value in nix build to, when requested, just print the revision, i.e. the result of the resolution it must perform anyways. Then, I can share its output (which now includes the resolved URL, which includes the hash) to my teammates, who can run the same build even if the revision that the default branch of github:edolstra/hello resolves to has changed in the meantime.

It's not a question of whether there is a possibility to somehow obtain a fully resolved flake URL, and that it can be provided as an argument to nix build, but a matter of convenience of the user experience with nix build.

20:59:27
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb nix flake show does this by the way (as I have mentioned above), but there's no way for me to guarantee that the reference does not change in between invocations of nix build and nix flake show. That's why I am asking for a solution that only involves nix build. Or a convincing explanation for a better solution... 21:03:38
@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsdshuh, you're right21:06:42
@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsds there is no utility to expand github:nixos/nixpkgs#hello to e.g. github:NixOS/nixpkgs/7e63eed145566cca98158613f3700515b4009ce3#hello 21:07:26
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb At least I couldn't find one... And if there would be one, I'd still prefer nix build to give me the expansion of the very thing I am building to avoid races (colleague pushing to Git in parallel, who knows...). 21:08:24
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb * At least I couldn't find one... And if there would be one, I'd still prefer nix build to give me the expansion of the very thing I am building to avoid races (colleague pushing to Git host in parallel, who knows...). 21:08:45
@lorenzleutgeb:matrix.orgLorenz Leutgeb Also note that nix flake show --json does not print the resolved URL (which nix flake show does). I just filed an issue: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/9230 21:09:44

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