| 12 Sep 2022 |
 k0kada (he/him) | But it is not like they happen often | 20:46:28 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Actually, if your config doesn't change, it generally doesn't happen at all | 20:46:40 |
 ribosomerocker | hmm... so switch out "pretty frequently" to "rarely" or "every now and then"? | 20:47:11 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I think you're focusing in the wrong part of the issue | 20:47:24 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is not the frequency that it is the issue there | 20:47:33 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is the level of experience | 20:47:38 |
| ribosomerocker | ah yeah | 20:49:07 |
| k0kada (he/him) | This is why the phrase is "in general assuming that the user has experience with both Nix and Elisp (Emacs Lisp) code, and has a fairly amount of experience debugging issues" | 20:50:22 |
| ribosomerocker | the reason i don't exactly say "you're expected to have some debugging experience" is because i don't want to make it sound like if a person isn't very experience in nixos then they can't use this project, so i thought just conveying that using this project might need the user to debug a few things would be good enough | 20:50:42 |
| ribosomerocker | the reason i also don't put in "[Users are expected to] have a fairly amount of experience debugging issues" is because it's not grammatically correct, maybe it should be something like "[Users are expected to] have a fair amount of experience debugging issues" | 20:50:46 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is saying "you should have experience in writing and debugging Nix and Elisp code" | 20:50:47 |
| ribosomerocker | In reply to@k0kada:matrix.org
It is saying "you should have experience in writing and debugging Nix and Elisp code" ah, that's a great way to say it | 20:51:00 |
| k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @mon:tchncs.de
the reason i don't exactly say "you're expected to have some debugging experience" is because i don't want to make it sound like if a person isn't very experience in nixos then they can't use this project, so i thought just conveying that using this project might need the user to debug a few things would be good enough But this is the idea :P | 20:51:19 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I mean, if you still want to do it being a novice, feel free | 20:51:32 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is just that we are not recommending it | 20:51:39 |
| ribosomerocker | i'll change it to just
Nix-Doom-Emacs (also commonly referred to as NDE in chatrooms) is a project with lots of moving pieces and hacks. Users are expected to know their way around using (and especially debugging) Nix and Emacs Lisp before using this project.
| 20:51:50 |
| ribosomerocker | sounds good? | 20:51:58 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Yeah | 20:52:48 |
| k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @k0kada:matrix.org
It is just that we are not recommending it BTW, it is not that I think we should be elitist or something | 20:55:24 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I just don't want Nix newbies to get frustrated by this project | 20:55:40 |
| ribosomerocker | oh don't worry, i completely understand | 20:55:53 |
| ribosomerocker | yep, that's what happened to me before loll | 20:56:07 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I see too many new folks getting into Nix and them stopping using it because they want to have all the shiny things at once | 20:56:18 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Like you see folks using NixOS+home-manager+flakes all from the go | 20:56:51 |
| ribosomerocker | https://github.com/nix-community/nix-doom-emacs/pull/266#discussion_r968899561
btw for this, what would the flake.nix be? | 20:57:26 |
| k0kada (he/him) | So I think we just discourage newbies to using this project considering how problematic it can be | 20:57:38 |
| ribosomerocker | yeah, i agree | 20:58:36 |
| ribosomerocker | OK, I think after this push (i read #4 and i added a FAQ question for it), it should be fine | 21:12:38 |
| ribosomerocker | I just applied the changes from your newest review and I un-drafted the PR | 21:24:44 |
| k0kada (he/him) | https://github.com/nix-community/nix-doom-emacs/pull/266/files#diff-57cdcc6b6701a7ce3b3a8f8c0366e0e611e6fb1a1b8dd7cd29e3263b3e064c8bR6
Perfect 👍️ | 21:29:10 |
