| 12 Sep 2022 |
 k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @mon:tchncs.de
ah, yeah, i paraphrased that one because "consequences" sounded way more serious than what the limitations were, i'll change that back if you want I mean, it is not necessary a limitation per see (some things are), but more understanding that nix-straight.el means you're not interacting with straight.el itself (at least not directly) | 20:42:04 |
| k0kada (he/him) | So "consequences" for me | 20:42:09 |
| k0kada (he/him) | But really, no need to undo all things | 20:43:59 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Maybe you're right :P | 20:44:13 |
 ribosomerocker | In reply to@k0kada:matrix.org
Don't know, I still thing the way I suggested looked better
Nix-Doom-Emacs (also commonly referred to as NDE in chatrooms) is a project with lots of moving pieces and hacks. Users are expected to know their way around Nix and Emacs (also Emacs Lisp) before using this project. You'll probably have to debug your way around problems pretty frequently.
does this sound better? | 20:44:19 |
| k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @mon:tchncs.de
Nix-Doom-Emacs (also commonly referred to as NDE in chatrooms) is a project with lots of moving pieces and hacks. Users are expected to know their way around Nix and Emacs (also Emacs Lisp) before using this project. You'll probably have to debug your way around problems pretty frequently.
does this sound better? This sounds way more pessimistic than it should IMO | 20:44:51 |
| k0kada (he/him) | If it wasn't for the fact that I want to live in doomemacs edge, the last time I had to debug an actual issue in NDE was like... 3 months ago? | 20:45:30 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Probably even more | 20:45:35 |
| ribosomerocker | so switch out "pretty frequently" to "sometimes"? | 20:46:02 |
| k0kada (he/him) | What I meant with being "a fairly amount of experience debugging issues" is because when you have issues, generally they're hard do debug | 20:46:15 |
| k0kada (he/him) | But it is not like they happen often | 20:46:28 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Actually, if your config doesn't change, it generally doesn't happen at all | 20:46:40 |
| ribosomerocker | hmm... so switch out "pretty frequently" to "rarely" or "every now and then"? | 20:47:11 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I think you're focusing in the wrong part of the issue | 20:47:24 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is not the frequency that it is the issue there | 20:47:33 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is the level of experience | 20:47:38 |
| ribosomerocker | ah yeah | 20:49:07 |
| k0kada (he/him) | This is why the phrase is "in general assuming that the user has experience with both Nix and Elisp (Emacs Lisp) code, and has a fairly amount of experience debugging issues" | 20:50:22 |
| ribosomerocker | the reason i don't exactly say "you're expected to have some debugging experience" is because i don't want to make it sound like if a person isn't very experience in nixos then they can't use this project, so i thought just conveying that using this project might need the user to debug a few things would be good enough | 20:50:42 |
| ribosomerocker | the reason i also don't put in "[Users are expected to] have a fairly amount of experience debugging issues" is because it's not grammatically correct, maybe it should be something like "[Users are expected to] have a fair amount of experience debugging issues" | 20:50:46 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is saying "you should have experience in writing and debugging Nix and Elisp code" | 20:50:47 |
| ribosomerocker | In reply to@k0kada:matrix.org
It is saying "you should have experience in writing and debugging Nix and Elisp code" ah, that's a great way to say it | 20:51:00 |
| k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @mon:tchncs.de
the reason i don't exactly say "you're expected to have some debugging experience" is because i don't want to make it sound like if a person isn't very experience in nixos then they can't use this project, so i thought just conveying that using this project might need the user to debug a few things would be good enough But this is the idea :P | 20:51:19 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I mean, if you still want to do it being a novice, feel free | 20:51:32 |
| k0kada (he/him) | It is just that we are not recommending it | 20:51:39 |
| ribosomerocker | i'll change it to just
Nix-Doom-Emacs (also commonly referred to as NDE in chatrooms) is a project with lots of moving pieces and hacks. Users are expected to know their way around using (and especially debugging) Nix and Emacs Lisp before using this project.
| 20:51:50 |
| ribosomerocker | sounds good? | 20:51:58 |
| k0kada (he/him) | Yeah | 20:52:48 |
| k0kada (he/him) | In reply to @k0kada:matrix.org
It is just that we are not recommending it BTW, it is not that I think we should be elitist or something | 20:55:24 |
| k0kada (he/him) | I just don't want Nix newbies to get frustrated by this project | 20:55:40 |
