| 7 Sep 2023 |
 JoelMcCracken | ok, learned something new | 14:29:53 |
| JoelMcCracken | i guess message output isn't shown for some reason from within straight-use-package advice | 14:30:25 |
 mei 🌒& | don't we suppress that for some reason? | 14:30:45 |
| JoelMcCracken | but doom's own print! is working | 14:30:47 |
| JoelMcCracken | "we?" | 14:30:58 |
| JoelMcCracken | like nix-doom-emacs suppresses it somehow? | 14:31:05 |
| mei 🌒& | yeah. or maybe doom, i don't remember exactly | 14:31:21 |
| mei 🌒& | * yeah. or maybe doom, i don't remember exactly where | 14:31:23 |
| mei 🌒& | elpaca looks nice | 14:50:49 |
| mei 🌒& | looks like the author is aware of nix existing | 14:53:16 |
| mei 🌒& | i'm thinking i might end up giving up doom because it seems to be kinda stalled. but the straight stuff is great regardless | 15:06:18 |
| mei 🌒& | * i'm thinking i might end up giving up doom eventually because it seems to be kinda stalled. but the straight stuff is great regardless | 15:07:37 |
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| 8 Sep 2023 |
| JoelMcCracken | yeah its hard to say | 03:10:42 |
| JoelMcCracken | doom is tricky | 03:10:49 |
| JoelMcCracken | it just has soo much code | 03:11:03 |
| JoelMcCracken | its quite a big project, too big imo | 03:11:08 |
| JoelMcCracken | not to say that like there aren't good reasons for all that code; i d; | 03:11:34 |
| JoelMcCracken | (that I can't comment) | 03:11:44 |
| JoelMcCracken | but i can say that most of it just really doesnt seem very simple | 03:11:55 |
| JoelMcCracken | ive been wondering if thats why it has stalled | 03:12:14 |
| JoelMcCracken | * ive been wondering if thats why it has stalled; the big refactor is ending up in a big mess | 03:12:40 |
| JoelMcCracken | but, FYI, I think doom development is now un-stalling | 04:01:49 |
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| 9 Sep 2023 |
| woobilicious | Is that doom upstream, or the nix package? | 02:26:45 |
| mei 🌒& | woobilicious: JoelMcCracken's last messages were about doom itself | 03:11:27 |
| woobilicious | Ahh okay :-) | 03:12:13 |
| woobilicious | I wouldn't mind moving to a "simple-emacs" thing using nix that lets me quickly setup a decent setup of emacs without having to learn lisp. | 04:05:00 |
| mei 🌒& | i've changed my mind a bit on that since then | 04:06:42 |
| mei 🌒& | i think doom having its own module system is good, but it should be way more modularized. almost like nixpkgs' evalModules is reusable. it shouldnt be a part of The Big Doom Blob | 04:07:19 |
