| 7 Sep 2023 |
 JoelMcCracken | ok | 13:44:05 |
| JoelMcCracken |
'prod' workstation
yeah i need to start doing this
| 13:44:26 |
| JoelMcCracken | *
'prod' workstation
yeah i need to start doing this
| 13:44:37 |
 mei 🌒& | the thing is currently NDE nearly forces you to wait for the whole damn rebuild cycle | 13:45:02 |
| JoelMcCracken | for what i had been doing before as I've been trying to make all these packages work, it involved basically re-running home manager over and over | 13:45:44 |
| mei 🌒& | doom doesn't encourage this and nix does but there's a big Mess to resolve when we make them touch | 13:45:49 |
| JoelMcCracken | yeah | 13:45:57 |
| mei 🌒& | In reply to @JoelMcCracken:matrix.org
for what i had been doing before as I've been trying to make all these packages work, it involved basically re-running home manager over and over yeah for me this takes a while because my evals are quite big | 13:48:48 |
| mei 🌒& | so i usually eval at point in my org config | 13:49:10 |
| JoelMcCracken | one thing about working on nde directly now is that I can run the check thing to see how its working | 13:49:22 |
| mei 🌒& | a friend who wasn't on Nix yet at the time could just M-x package-install and that was like. wow | 13:51:06 |
| mei 🌒& | like i went "oh you should get $X" and they just ran a few things in emacs and got the package | 13:51:23 |
| mei 🌒& | even with vanilla doom that'd be what, a doom sync and restart | 13:51:53 |
| JoelMcCracken | weljl you can i think run M-x doom sync | 13:53:13 |
| mei 🌒& | there's hints of a mainframe ideology in there though; what happens with a few emacsen on different machines | 13:53:20 |
| mei 🌒& | * there's hints of a mainframe ideology in there though; what happens with a few emacsen on different machines? | 13:53:23 |
| JoelMcCracken | sure | 13:54:02 |
| mei 🌒& | * there's hints of a mainframe ideology in there though; what happens with a few emacsen on different machines? | 13:54:29 |
| mei 🌒& | if we had a imperative2nix that'd be really neat | 13:54:50 |
| JoelMcCracken | for sure | 13:54:58 |
| JoelMcCracken | like somehow a way to generate an overlay from the current running doom | 13:55:22 |
| mei 🌒& | what's actually missing for that? what if we put a Nix in the doom | 13:55:28 |
| mei 🌒& | yea | 13:55:29 |
| mei 🌒& | like nix-shell -p but doom calls it from inside its package manager | 13:55:44 |
| mei 🌒& | see: [RFC 0040] "Ret-cont" recursive Nix | 13:57:09 |
| mei 🌒& | vaguely. not sure if that's precisely the right one | 13:57:45 |
| mei 🌒& | yeah this isn't the right one | 14:00:01 |
| mei 🌒& | I think I was thinking of [RFC 0092] Computed derivations but it's been >a year, need to reread | 14:02:38 |
| JoelMcCracken | yeah i don't know | 14:03:33 |
| JoelMcCracken | i imagine it would work like:
- a user picks a package to install from a list
- nix installs it
- emacs loads it within the running process
| 14:05:37 |
