| 7 Sep 2021 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Well for workflow managament, I still believe that zeebe.io, albeit a beast, is the "industry" standard that we could borrow from regular mamagement science (not code-management science). | 13:57:50 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Now, if alongside the CLI store-front, we could implememt a BPMN worker that maps command messages to makes' jobs, that would be a "slim" (<500 LOC) but very elegant solution. | 13:59:45 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Now, if alongside the CLI store-front, we could implememt a BPMN worker that maps BPMN's command messages to `makes`' jobs, that would be a "slim" (<500 LOC) but very elegant solution. | 14:00:16 |
 @timdeh:matrix.org | I always wanted DevOS to slim up a bit, but it just seemed to keep moving in the other direction š
| 14:09:14 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | should we do calver for devos? | 14:32:44 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | calendar versioning? | 14:37:23 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | we did it!
https://github.com/topics/nix-flake | 22:11:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | That's upping the stakes. š | 22:58:51 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | š | 22:58:54 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Calendar Versioning? š | 22:59:12 |
| 8 Sep 2021 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | https://demo.hedgedoc.org/s/TYPHlGRUw# | 02:37:24 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | please let me know if I misrepresented something. | 02:37:44 |
 @gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org | I know we are all about abstractions in this channel but holly shit makes seems so complicated due to amount of stuff it contains | 08:24:08 |
| @gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org | I have went over it few times by now, but yeah... Cant say that it seems tempting | 08:24:42 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I think it cultivates an "outside-in" perspective and treats nix as cattle, not as pet. I like that. | 11:58:29 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * I think it cultivates an "outside-in" perspective and treats nix as cattle, not as pet. I have to admit that I pretty much like that. | 11:59:15 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debyingt (toml files). | 12:00:14 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debying (toml files). | 12:00:19 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_ way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debying (toml files). | 12:00:30 |
 tomberek | It (makes) did make a few interesting choices, though as-is - Iām hesitant. Learning from the design and the experience is valuable. Iād like to see flakes used under the hood. (I think it would improve performance and reusability of the library it made). | 12:37:21 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I have the same feeling, though I saw that in an earlier iteration, they seemed to have had a wrapper around flakes, so I don't know how difficult that would be to reimplement. For many, not embracing flakes might be a show stopper. Otoh, it looks like they did not prioritize this implementation detail over an overall better user experience (no "special" install). | 13:56:59 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I wary, though, what that means for their use of fetchers - which - as I understand it, will eventually be denied within a flake's output function. | 13:57:55 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | For those who remember the nix build issue I reported on a few days ago: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/5227 | 14:50:37 |
| 9 Sep 2021 |
 @princemachiavelli:matrix.org | Just updated my flake.lock... I'm getting this error when trying to build error: attribute 'agenixRoot' missing Anyone have this issue? | 00:31:19 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | hmm can't say I've seen that yet. Is this a new option in agenix perhaps? | 00:50:02 |
| @princemachiavelli:matrix.org | I don't think so since ryantm/agenix hasn't had any commit since Aug 1st. I'm going to go back and update each flake input individually. | 00:51:33 |
| @princemachiavelli:matrix.org | It seems to break when I update the nixos input. The trace is pretty much all in the nixpkgs/lib code. Seems like something in nixos-unstable is broken. | 01:17:48 |
| @princemachiavelli:matrix.org | Looks like there was a change to the activation scripts around removing users/groups in PR 136605 witch was merged today. This is what fails to evaluate: ${textClosureMap id (withHeadlines) (attrNames withHeadlines)}. Not sure if this is a Nix issue or a Devos issue. | 01:25:07 |
| 10 Sep 2021 |
|  @aynish:sealight.xyz joined the room. | 23:47:24 |
| 11 Sep 2021 |
|  andi- joined the room. | 03:29:07 |
