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12 Aug 2021
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * d4hines: that means it doas not natively understand (yet): "$FLAKEROOT#homeConfigurationsPortable.$ARCH.\"$USER\".activationPackage 21:30:41
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)there is an upstream issue with discussions, one sec...21:31:29
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)https://github.com/nix-community/home-manager/issues/216121:32:03
@ultranix:matrix.orgultranix kraftnix: taking a break, will check again tonight. thank you for the help so far 21:32:42
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @ultranix:matrix.org
kraftnix: taking a break, will check again tonight. thank you for the help so far
I'm also running hot with a nix ssh issue I have 😂
21:33:38
@d4hines:matrix.orgd4hines

If we can unwind the stack a bit:

  • I'm trying to get the simplest setup that has flakes + home-manager + zsh enabled (if possible 😆 - I'm very close to giving up on zsh with home-manager and just manually installing it in Arch).
  • nrdxp 's suggestion was an overlay to fix the home-manager/nix-pkgs incompatibility.
  • I implemented it here: https://github.com/d4hines/beth/blob/46ba9712110e164d4fe963d525511ce0d9bc86d3/flake.nix#L11-L17, but it doesn't work. I'm a total Nix noob so I probably did something wrong.
  • David Arnold (blaggacao) suggested I use digga as an easier way to consume overlays.
  • I wanted to try it out, but deploying a digga.mkFlake on my system seems to be aspirational right now.

I feel like there's something dead easy I could do to fix this. Any ideas what that would be? I'm not sure using Digga is it yet.

21:37:51
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orglet me pull your flake and see if I can find the issue21:39:02
@kraftnix:matrix.org@kraftnix:matrix.org
In reply to @ultranix:matrix.org
kraftnix: taking a break, will check again tonight. thank you for the help so far

Ok, it's 100% an emacs issue, I spliced down your profile until and simply adding/removing user.profiles.emacs from your user makes the issue appear/disappear.

i don't use emacs, or understand how their overlay works but that's your current issue.

if you haven't heard about bud before I highly recommend checking it out, specifically how it helped me quickly find your issue was doing

bud repl
 nix-repl> Flake.nixosConfigurations.arrakis.config.system.path
error: The option `home-manager.users.tgunnoe.inputs' does not exist. Definition values:
       - In `/nix/store/493yp6hb6mc186mgi2h2m9kddq5dwk3y-source/users/tgunnoe': { }
«derivation
# comment out your emacs profile
nix-repl> :r
Loading '/nix/store/q35fmyf6l8d5gc7khgmpqzj84q6l6wlj-repl.nix'...
Added 4 variables.

nix-repl> Flake.nixosConfigurations.arrakis.config.system.path
«derivation /nix/store/0xg5n34l73p7h03wsi5ixl7ijlpm1j6h-system-path.drv»

allows for very quick debugging

21:39:08
@kraftnix:matrix.org@kraftnix:matrix.org honestly bud repl is da shit 👍️ David Arnold (blaggacao) 21:40:17
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgYeah, I tried to lure some emacers into the DevOS community at some point a few months back, because the Emacs user story isn't really great in general, even on NixOS proper.21:40:24
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgI tried to help, but since I don't use it personally, it's a bit hard to find the time.21:40:48
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @d4hines:matrix.org

If we can unwind the stack a bit:

  • I'm trying to get the simplest setup that has flakes + home-manager + zsh enabled (if possible 😆 - I'm very close to giving up on zsh with home-manager and just manually installing it in Arch).
  • nrdxp 's suggestion was an overlay to fix the home-manager/nix-pkgs incompatibility.
  • I implemented it here: https://github.com/d4hines/beth/blob/46ba9712110e164d4fe963d525511ce0d9bc86d3/flake.nix#L11-L17, but it doesn't work. I'm a total Nix noob so I probably did something wrong.
  • David Arnold (blaggacao) suggested I use digga as an easier way to consume overlays.
  • I wanted to try it out, but deploying a digga.mkFlake on my system seems to be aspirational right now.

I feel like there's something dead easy I could do to fix this. Any ideas what that would be? I'm not sure using Digga is it yet.

upfront investment is a bit more involved, but tailing compound interests are considerable 🐿️
21:40:48
@kraftnix:matrix.org@kraftnix:matrix.orgI have looked at emacs a few times, and using evil-mode seems like it would be a nice an OK entry into it as a vimmer, but it's such a commitment, it's like taking my shell and turning it into an OS. I'm quite happy with my vim+tmux+zsh setup, it's really org-mode and a few other things that have emacs calling to me.21:41:46
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgIndeed. A comparable org mode in vim would be stellar21:43:02
@d4hines:matrix.orgd4hines
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
upfront investment is a bit more involved, but tailing compound interests are considerable 🐿️
I don't doubt it! But I've carved out a set block of time to make an effort at using Nix for my day-to-day workstation. I don't think learning (and possibly waiting for/developing new features for) the DevOS family of tools will fit into that time. My hope is that if I can get something working reliably, I can learn the cool stuff little by little.
21:43:52
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgwell I'm building your hm config now, we'll see if I can track down the issue21:44:44
@kraftnix:matrix.org@kraftnix:matrix.org
In reply to @timdeh:matrix.org
Indeed. A comparable org mode in vim would be stellar
can't seem to find that with a search
21:44:51
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgI know there are plugins, but nothing that works as well (from what I hear at least)21:45:17
@kraftnix:matrix.org@kraftnix:matrix.orgoh i completely misunderstood what you said, i thought you said there was a vim plugin called stellar that was comparable to org-mode 😅21:46:15
@d4hines:matrix.orgd4hines
In reply to @timdeh:matrix.org
well I'm building your hm config now, we'll see if I can track down the issue
Are you on the latest commit (that has digga) or the one with my overlay (46ba9712110e164d4fe963d525511ce0d9bc86d3)? it's a bit disorganized right now
21:46:48
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgoh no, I just thought I'd use a language throwback from the 80/90s 😅21:47:08
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgThe one you linked earlier with the overlay21:47:30
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.org46ba9721:47:39
@d4hines:matrix.orgd4hinesCool ty!21:47:43
@d4hines:matrix.orgd4hinesHow are you debugging it? I'm so curious to know.21:48:06
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orghmm, well interestingly, it built fine for me with no issues 😅21:48:43
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgthe problem must occur during activation perhaps?21:48:52
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgI think I can make a new throwaway user to try activating it21:49:15
@gtrunsec:matrix.org@gtrunsec:matrix.orgif you mean emacs overlay, my example would be help you https://github.com/GTrunSec/Coding-Dev-Env-With-NixFlake/blob/main/emacs/flake.nix22:16:40
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