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20 Jul 2021
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/blob/master/rfcs/0042-config-option.md19:15:19
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @teutat3s:pub.solar
so should digga maybe create extra-* here https://github.com/divnix/digga/blob/f25928ed0bf05ab20af5a8231d264ae01b42ab34/modules/nix-config.nix#L24-L26
That could be a quick fix, although any extra-* flag is again overridden in the nix.config
19:15:58
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) The problem is really the missing merge semantics with regard to nix.extraOptions 19:16:21
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * The root problem is really the missing merge semantics with regard to nix.extraOptions 19:16:31
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)If a fix cold expose or clarify this upstream "shortcoming", tat would bereally useful. Maybe a prominent code comment or something.19:17:31
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * If a fix cold expose or clarify this upstream "shortcoming", that would be really useful. Maybe a prominent code comment or something.19:17:41
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) I think devos is a prominent enough project to be able to push upstream improvement efficiently, so let's not be shy. 19:18:22
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * I think devos is a prominent enough project to be able to push upstream improvement efficiently, so let's not be shy and make use of that consolidated user abse. 19:18:47
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * I think devos (together with fup) is a prominent enough project to be able to push upstream improvement efficiently, so let's not be shy and make use of that consolidated userbase. 19:19:00
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgRight, not sure if i showed you guys but this is neat: https://github.com/gytis-ivaskevicius/nixfiles/blob/master/overlays/shell-config/default.nix#L44-L4619:21:07
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) Gytis Ivaskevicius: is the target the editable path? 19:21:54
@teutat3s:pub.solar@teutat3s:pub.solar
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
If a fix cold expose or clarify this upstream "shortcoming", that would be really useful. Maybe a prominent code comment or something.

reading man nix.conf it sounds like extra-* is what we're looking for

A configuration setting usually overrides any previous value. However, you can prefix the name of the setting by extra-  to  append  to  the
       previous value. For instance,

       substituters = a b
       extra-substituters = c d

       defines the substituters setting to be a b c d. This is also available as a command line flag (e.g. --extra-substituters).


19:22:20
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @teutat3s:pub.solar

reading man nix.conf it sounds like extra-* is what we're looking for

A configuration setting usually overrides any previous value. However, you can prefix the name of the setting by extra-  to  append  to  the
       previous value. For instance,

       substituters = a b
       extra-substituters = c d

       defines the substituters setting to be a b c d. This is also available as a command line flag (e.g. --extra-substituters).


We'd have to test this. I suspect if it's
19:22:56
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
Gytis Ivaskevicius: is the target the editable path?
No, it just opens store directory. The cool part is that it is overlays aware
19:23:13
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @teutat3s:pub.solar

reading man nix.conf it sounds like extra-* is what we're looking for

A configuration setting usually overrides any previous value. However, you can prefix the name of the setting by extra-  to  append  to  the
       previous value. For instance,

       substituters = a b
       extra-substituters = c d

       defines the substituters setting to be a b c d. This is also available as a command line flag (e.g. --extra-substituters).


*

We'd have to test this. I suspect if it's

extra-substituters = c d
extra-substituters = a

only a would be left?

19:23:21
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) Gytis Ivaskevicius: I've to win you over for divnix/bud where we could land the users within the editable directory (if it's a custom pkg). Or we could even boostrap an overlay to modfy upstream in the appropriate local place. 19:24:25
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org
~
❯ nix-cd g-firefox

/nix/store/vdsgmh16gknhy47z0y39kk5yj2m7sw94-firefox-89.0.2
❯
19:24:26
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) Something a la nix-j (jump) 19:24:56
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org
In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
Gytis Ivaskevicius: I've to win you over for divnix/bud where we could land the users within the editable directory (if it's a custom pkg). Or we could even boostrap an overlay to modfy upstream in the appropriate local place.
what is exactly the goal of it?
19:25:07
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgone could mount overlayfs over /nix/store and make it editable 😀19:25:24
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)

Like:

  • "I want to modify my firefox"
  • nix-j firefox
  • profit!
19:25:48
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgAnd how are you expecting to do that?19:26:12
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org you are aware of nix-store --verify, right? 19:26:38
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
target=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outputs.pkgs.${system}.nixpkgs.$1.outPath" --impure --raw)
base=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outPath" --impure --raw)
cd $FLAKEROOT/$(diffpath? target base)
19:28:08
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) *
target=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outputs.pkgs.${system}.nixpkgs.$1.outPath" --impure --raw)
base=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outPath" --impure --raw)
cd $FLAKEROOT/$(diffpath? target base)

(not sure what's the command for diffpath)

19:28:28
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) *
target=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outputs.pkgs.${system}.nixpkgs.$1.outPath" --impure --raw)
base=$(nix eval --expr "(builtins.getFlake "flake:self").outPath" --impure --raw)
cd $FLAKEROOT/$(diffpath? target base)

(not sure what's the command for diffpath, but you get the idea)

19:28:35
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)Ah, no, wouldn't work. 🤣19:29:08
@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org@gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.orgim interested in the editing part19:29:23
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)ANyhow, it would be nice if we could make it wirk somehow...19:29:24
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao) * ANyhow, it would be nice if we could make it work somehow...19:29:30

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