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21 Aug 2021
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdi can't summon like two years of minor annoyances, but there have been enough where i thought "this is a great idea, but it is probably never going to be as stable as i want it to be" and that isn't a knock because wrangling a bunch of end user applications, and keeping in step with nixpkgs is i'm sure not fun, but still, tech debt it remains23:51:04
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdif i was doing things from scratch, i would probably write my own modules, and just wrap the binaries with config files written to /etc23:51:44
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgare you referring to just home-manager or devos as a whole (just to clarify 😅)23:52:54
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdhome-manager, i know nothing about devos23:53:16
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgokay cool, I thought you were referring to us when you said "tech debt", my bad 😆23:54:05
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgbut yeah, I get what you mean, it can be a little annoying, we've had a few bugs show up here and there, I guess it's simpler since once we resolve them here, they are resolved for all of us23:54:39
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdnah, i can't really go in for templates, preconfigured stuff, etc. i am not a software dev either so not your audience23:54:43
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdyeah you have a narrower model of what you are doing and expecting out of home-manager right, and also you have documentation you make and share23:55:10
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdi just have myself, the code, and my .zsh_history23:55:31
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgsometimes that's all that's needed23:55:57
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdhttps://gitlab.com/6AA4FD/stow/-/blob/master/flake.nix i think i may have also hacked together something that is vaguely similar to what you guys are working on in a more disciplined fashion23:57:15
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdbasically no library to speak of, just a bunch of modules23:57:57
22 Aug 2021
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgyeah that was essentially the motivation for the project in the first place. I noticed a lot of patterns were getting redesigned over and over so tried to see if maybe we could get some consensus going.00:00:03
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fd
In reply to @timdeh:matrix.org
yeah that was essentially the motivation for the project in the first place. I noticed a lot of patterns were getting redesigned over and over so tried to see if maybe we could get some consensus going.
did you guys end up doing anything about repo mixing? that is a repeating pattern i have seen a ton of
00:01:31
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgperhaps, what do you mean by repo mixing exactly though 😅00:03:25
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdmainly using unstable packages in your configuratino00:04:29
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdlike at a basic level00:04:47
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgoh yeah that is a thing00:04:55
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdyou guys have a good way of dealing with it?00:05:09
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgThis overlay essentially get's imported from an alternate nixpkgs: https://github.com/divnix/devos/blob/main/overlays/overrides.nix00:05:47
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgI was wondering if we should expand this at some point to allow for more than a single override source00:06:06
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fd
pkgs-unstable = import inputs.nixpkgs-unstable {
    system = config.nixpkgs.system;
    config = { allowUnfree = true; };
  };
00:08:15
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdthis is what i use, i use a let statement, then i can just add stuff from here directly00:08:28
@6aa4fd:tchncs.de6aa4fdwhich i like because then i don't have to figure out how my package set is "polluted" when i am just quickly upgrading my version of a program00:09:12
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgThat's kinda what's going on under the hood, the overlay is just the input for the import essentially00:18:42
@blaggacao:matrix.orgDavid Arnold (blaggacao)
In reply to @timdeh:matrix.org
I was wondering if we should expand this at some point to allow for more than a single override source
That's already possible. You can override from any "channel" 😁
01:13:08
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgperfect, yeah my perspective on the project is quite stale by now unfortunately 😅03:10:53
@timdeh:matrix.org@timdeh:matrix.orgmaybe I should run through the current features and update the docs 😄03:12:05
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23 Aug 2021
@yusdacra:nixos.dev@yusdacra:nixos.dev

I was running someone through devos starting docs, this command in start's index.md seems to not work, and errors with "not a git repository":

nix-shell https://github.com/divnix/devos/archive/core.tar.gz -A shell \
  --run "flk get core"

this also doesnt work, says flk is not found:

nix-shell https://github.com/divnix/devos/archive/main.tar.gz -A shell \
  --run "flk get main"
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