| 28 Oct 2021 |
 @timdeh:matrix.org | I am currently extending and redrafting this RFC, as I have clearly hit the wrong note | 18:46:25 |
 Pacman99 | I saw the github discussion he most certainly agreed to your proposal and removed it | 18:46:38 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | the reality though, is that there is a lot of conflict, which is becoming steadier in it's occurrence and bolder in it's execution | 18:46:44 |
| Pacman99 |
I'd like to formally request the removal of the DevOS room from the NixOS Matrix.
Sure, I've taken care of that.
| 18:46:45 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | this is an attempt to stop that once and for all by codifying the primary (not the only) value of the nix community | 18:47:02 |
| Pacman99 | ^ How else am I supposed to interpret that interaction? | 18:47:05 |
| Pacman99 | *
I'd like to formally request the removal of the DevOS room from the NixOS Matrix.
Sure, I've taken care of that.
| 18:47:30 |
| Pacman99 | *
I'd like to formally request the removal of the DevOS room from the NixOS Matrix.
Sure, I've taken care of that.
| 18:47:37 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | but I was still in the process of drafting that post when it was actually removed | 18:47:37 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | It was an attempt, and quite probably a necessary one, to show that I would not make the same sacrifice that I am asking to be made of others | 18:48:28 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | * It was an attempt, and quite probably a necessary one, to show that I would not hesitate to make the same sacrifice that I am asking to be made of others | 18:48:43 |
| Pacman99 | But its not your sacrifice to make! Its not just your room, there are many people here with different opinions. | 18:49:54 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | You are right. I acted hastily, but do you understand what I am being accused of here? | 18:50:13 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | It's not a justification by any means | 18:50:29 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | It's just what happened | 18:50:36 |
| Pacman99 | I'm not entirely sure, I've read through a lot of the discussion and I didn't see an accusation. But if I missed something I'm sorry, can you explain what the accusation is? | 18:51:17 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | In any case, I don't really care if somebody sees me as a biggot for trying to put a stop to this incessant, and in all reality, quite targeted and brazen abuse of power | 18:51:24 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | at this very moment, a prominent member of this community is at risk of being permabanned from github | 18:51:43 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | someone who did not participate in yesterday's RFC | 18:51:54 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | I merely pulled the weeds from under the ground which were already there | 18:52:24 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | I'm not trying to be a fucking hero, I've avoided this shit for months! But it comes down to this, I don't want to work and participate in a community where I am afraid to even talk | 18:53:08 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | As the release manager in a position of leadership, I can only stand idly by so long | 18:54:23 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | I think your acknowledgement of wrong acting putting this room at disposition is comendable. It maybe was a bit hasted. | 18:58:07 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | On the other hand, I don't doubt for one second that GrahamC is sometimes abusing of his power. | 18:58:39 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I empathically beleive that. | 18:58:46 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * I, empathically, am convinced of that, by now. | 18:59:11 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | Yes, specifically I have added a section in "future work" for moderating the moderator | 19:00:22 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | values can not be decided by one person | 19:00:28 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | no matter how well intentioned | 19:00:36 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | For example, it is notable that already in several occasions I tried to reach out to him in private only to be forced to put that very fact on public record. And nothing happens. No human to talk to. | 19:00:42 |
