| 7 Sep 2021 |
 tomberek | it's got good ideas | 03:02:45 |
 @gtrunsec:matrix.org | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
I mean, at it's core, makes is a job tree with a cli front. In fact, I have always had a plan to use airflow as a front-end testing framework and pipeline of workflows. | 04:41:24 |
| @gtrunsec:matrix.org | In reply to @blaggacao:matrix.org
I mean, at it's core, makes is a job tree with a cli front. * In fact, I have always had a plan to use airflow as a front-end testing framework and pipeline of workflows.Maybe we can integrate the use case of both of them | 04:42:20 |
| tomberek | My plan is to make Airflow obsolete by using Hydra and controlled impurity. | 05:02:25 |
 David Arnold (blaggacao) | Well for workflow managament, I still believe that zeebe.io, albeit a beast, is the "industry" standard that we could borrow from regular mamagement science (not code-mamagement science). | 13:54:07 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | What I like about it is that it bridges two separate worlds "management" & "development". But this division is artifical, at best. | 13:54:55 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Workflows managaement is probably the home turf of the managaement domain. And zeebe bridges that nicely into tech via executable BPMNs. | 13:56:01 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | BPMN = Business Process Modeling Notation is a bit like the nix for workflows. | 13:56:31 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Workflows managaement is probably the home turf of the management domain. And zeebe bridges that nicely into tech via executable BPMNs. | 13:57:00 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * BPMN = Business Process Modeling Notation is a bit like the (graphical) `nix` for workflows. | 13:57:29 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Well for workflow managament, I still believe that zeebe.io, albeit a beast, is the "industry" standard that we could borrow from regular mamagement science (not code-management science). | 13:57:50 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Now, if alongside the CLI store-front, we could implememt a BPMN worker that maps command messages to makes' jobs, that would be a "slim" (<500 LOC) but very elegant solution. | 13:59:45 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * Now, if alongside the CLI store-front, we could implememt a BPMN worker that maps BPMN's command messages to `makes`' jobs, that would be a "slim" (<500 LOC) but very elegant solution. | 14:00:16 |
 @timdeh:matrix.org | I always wanted DevOS to slim up a bit, but it just seemed to keep moving in the other direction š
| 14:09:14 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | should we do calver for devos? | 14:32:44 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | calendar versioning? | 14:37:23 |
| @timdeh:matrix.org | we did it!
https://github.com/topics/nix-flake | 22:11:32 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | That's upping the stakes. š | 22:58:51 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | š | 22:58:54 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | Calendar Versioning? š | 22:59:12 |
| 8 Sep 2021 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | https://demo.hedgedoc.org/s/TYPHlGRUw# | 02:37:24 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | please let me know if I misrepresented something. | 02:37:44 |
 @gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org | I know we are all about abstractions in this channel but holly shit makes seems so complicated due to amount of stuff it contains | 08:24:08 |
| @gytis-ivaskevicius:matrix.org | I have went over it few times by now, but yeah... Cant say that it seems tempting | 08:24:42 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | I think it cultivates an "outside-in" perspective and treats nix as cattle, not as pet. I like that. | 11:58:29 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * I think it cultivates an "outside-in" perspective and treats nix as cattle, not as pet. I have to admit that I pretty much like that. | 11:59:15 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debyingt (toml files). | 12:00:14 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debying (toml files). | 12:00:19 |
| David Arnold (blaggacao) | * It seems somewhat affordable to the average nix-averse developer. And might be _the_ way to implement a task runner in nix without self-debying (toml files). | 12:00:30 |
| tomberek | It (makes) did make a few interesting choices, though as-is - Iām hesitant. Learning from the design and the experience is valuable. Iād like to see flakes used under the hood. (I think it would improve performance and reusability of the library it made). | 12:37:21 |
