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Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Some insights into 128 bit atomics in gcc:
https://gcc.gnu.org/legacy-ml/gcc/2018-02/msg00224.html
https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=84563 | 00:11:35 |
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oddlama | I'm having trouble overriding stdenv for the nix package:
{
inputs.nixpkgs.url = "github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixos-25.05";
outputs =
inputs:
let
pkgs = import inputs.nixpkgs {
system = "x86_64-linux";
};
in
{
packages.x86_64-linux = {
nix_2_30_clang = pkgs.nixVersions.nix_2_30.override {
stdenv = pkgs.clangStdenv;
};
};
};
}
Building this package does not actually trigger a build but reuses the gcc artifacts while rebuilding some kind of wrapper (?)
$ nix build .#packages.x86_64-linux.nix_2_30_clang
$ readelf -p .comment ./result/bin/nix
String dump of section '.comment':
[ 1] GCC: (GNU) 14.3.0
This should probably say something like:
[ 0] GCC: (GNU) 14.3.0
[ 12] clang version 18.1.8
Overriding still works for the autoconf based build (nix_2_24) but not for any of the newer package builds. It seems like the override is silently ignored and not passed down to the sub-derivations anymore.
| 13:50:11 |
Sandro π§ | Did you try?
nixVersions = prev.nixVersions.extend (final: prev:
nixComponents_2_31 = prev.nixComponents_2_31.overrideScope (finalScope: prevScope: { stdenv = pkgs_25_05.clangStdenv; };
};
| 14:37:21 |
oddlama | Yes that is looking good, thanks. Is this the preferred way to do overrides for those types of packages now? | 15:35:33 |
Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | In reply to @oddlama:matrix.org Yes that is looking good, thanks. Is this the preferred way to do overrides for those types of packages now? For the modular packaging - yes. Since now this is not a monolithic package that you can override | 16:04:22 |
Sandro π§ | Also an example on how to add patches
nixComponents_2_31 = (prev.nixComponents_2_31.overrideScope (finalScope: prevScope: {
aws-sdk-cpp = null;
boost = boost231;
withAWS = false;
})).appendPatches (commonPatches ++ [
./nix-derivation-better-copy-2.30.diff
]);
| 16:05:49 |
| 9 Sep 2025 |
Winter | this is seemingly missing where commonPatches comes from fyi | 02:21:31 |
Sandro π§ | * Also an example on how to add patches
nixComponents_2_31 = (prev.nixComponents_2_31.overrideScope (finalScope: prevScope: {
aws-sdk-cpp = null;
boost = boost231;
withAWS = false;
})).appendPatches [
./nix-derivation-better-copy-2.30.diff
];
| 08:50:38 |
Sandro π§ | That's just a list I have somewhere above in a let in | 08:50:56 |
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Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Curiously, Boehm granule size on 64 bit systems is 16 bytes. That means that 16 byte atomics for Value are very workable, since x86_64 needs stuff to be 16 bytes aligned (otherwise memory might straddle the cache line and that wonβt be atomic ever) | 17:31:17 |
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getchoo | hey Mic92: just came across your comment on the detnix installer thread. i'm not super familiar with the codebase just yet, but i have a good bit of experience with gha and ci janitor work, and would love to help out if i can! :) | 00:16:11 |
Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Here are some notes from our meeting with the installer team. I forgor to publish them to discourse https://pad.lassul.us/KgpbqiQpQEOX2cKF5Ehjwg# | 00:24:04 |
Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Very incomplete and half-way | 00:24:49 |
Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | But basically it'd be great to start integrating it into our dogfooding setup https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/master/.github/actions/install-nix-action/action.yaml | 00:25:28 |
Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | PoC for 16 byte atomics on x86_64 for paralell eval: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/13964. Lovers of compiler intrinsics are welcome | 01:07:35 |
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