| 2 Apr 2025 |
 p14 | In reply to @roberthensing:matrix.org
The --load-db format has come up before. It is entirely forward-incompatible, so we may need to introduce any additions as a new format Glancing at the load db there are signs the signature is there; is it just not being imported properly, I wonder 🤔 | 14:39:37 |
 John Ericson | emily ElvishJerricco OK we discussed a bunch and we're liking the sort of compromise you all proposed | 20:30:03 |
| John Ericson | 2.28 in 25.05 has Mic92's combo build (or something like it) | 20:30:27 |
| John Ericson | 2.28 after 25.05 is componentized | 20:30:36 |
| John Ericson | 2.29 in all branches has componentized (2.29 is very unimportant on 25.05 except for new version dogfooders) | 20:31:03 |
| John Ericson | Also when we re-introduce nix git, we should use the componentized version for that | 20:32:23 |
| John Ericson | how does that sound? | 20:32:27 |
| John Ericson | I would like to merge Robert Hensing (roberth)'s open PR right away, for sake of the newer versions and git, and also because I like how it makes a package set for the dependencies, even with the monolithic package for Nix itself | 20:33:19 |
| John Ericson | Also, since you two (and others) have such strong opinions about this, it would be great if you signed yourselves up as maintainers in Nixpkgs for this :D | 20:35:00 |
| John Ericson | especially because, as ElvishJerricco mentioned, actually the mkMesonPackage stuff and whatnot really ought to not be Nix-specific, but reused for other things like (potentially) systemd | 20:35:32 |
 emily | SGTM, especially if we can get a componentized-compatible overrides interface for patching/build flags/env.NIX_CFLAGS_COMPILE on the monolithic one | 20:40:43 |
| emily | sorry, I definitely do not have the time and do not feel I understand the packaging well enough to :( | 20:41:03 |
| John Ericson | I guessed I mixed up my metaphors here, what about just on the monolithic package? | 20:42:03 |
| John Ericson | (poly package maintenance for systemd is an orthogonal question) | 20:43:04 |
| emily | is the idea to keep the monolithic package around? I assumed that we'd want to switch to the componentized one early in 25.11 to shake out any issues well ahead of release | 20:56:43 |
| John Ericson | emily: yes, yeah the idea is to get rid it early in the cycle | 20:59:57 |
| John Ericson | so we are not in this some position come november | 21:00:02 |
 fzakaria | I asked this on twitter but maybe here is a better place.
On my MacOS Nix installation (2.26) I'm surprised in my flake project how often I hit:
unpacking 'github:NixOS/nixpkgs/b7ba7f9f45c5cd0d8625e9e217c28f8eb6a19a76' into the Git cache.
| 22:55:51 |
| fzakaria | Is this a bug in Nix or something I'm missing. | 22:56:04 |
| 3 Apr 2025 |
| John Ericson | * so we are not in this same position come november | 03:12:00 |
|  mjolnir banned  @cafkafk:fem.gg (<no reason supplied>). | 11:41:55 |
 Mic92 | fzakaria: what do you mean by often? is this for the same commit? | 12:16:39 |
| Mic92 | I can also recommend: nixpkgs.url = "git+https://github.com/Mic92/nixpkgs?shallow=1&ref=main"; | 12:17:10 |
|  @2xsaiko:tchncs.de changed their display name from 2xsaiko to 2xsaiko (moved! @saiko:knifepoint.net). | 12:52:04 |
 teto | does the shallow do anything ? I would suspect it's the default | 17:50:38 |
| emily | GitHub really doesn't like people doing shallow clones of the same repo repeatedly, fwiw. (they've had other package managers change their update mechanism because of that in the past) | 19:22:16 |
 jade_ | i would never recommend this over a tarball input. if it's a nix bug, nix should fix it. | 20:44:34 |
| jade_ | * i would never recommend this over a tarball input. if it's a nix bug, nix should fix it. git clone is very slow and resource intensive compared to a tarball fetch such as the github: flake URL scheme. | 20:45:00 |
| 4 Apr 2025 |
|  redrield joined the room. | 00:17:02 |
| mjolnir unbanned @cafkafk:fem.gg. | 06:12:58 |
