| 12 Jan 2026 |
 Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | But flakes are kinda 3986 but not really... | 18:41:06 |
 Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | tfw implementing correctly = backwards incompatible with nix | 18:41:32 |
 raitobezarius | no | 18:41:39 |
| raitobezarius | schemes should be generalized and pluggable | 18:41:51 |
 roberth | this part is still experimental fwiw | 18:42:12 |
| roberth | (flakerefs) | 18:42:58 |
| roberth | or is it, because Eelco poked a NIX_PATH hole? | 18:43:18 |
| roberth | :( | 18:43:22 |
| raitobezarius | well, if you put a flakeref in a NIX_PATH, it doesn't require an xp feature | 18:43:31 |
| raitobezarius | but at the boundary, an xp feature will be required | 18:43:35 |
| roberth | it damn well should have... | 18:43:47 |
| raitobezarius | it doesn't matter much in the end | 18:44:06 |
| raitobezarius | flakerefs are theoretically experimental | 18:44:18 |
| raitobezarius | in practice, breaking backward compat of it is not a good idea | 18:44:31 |
| roberth | they're already part of the sediment record | 18:44:40 |
| raitobezarius | flakerefs as a term should die | 18:44:46 |
| raitobezarius | and we should all pretend they are actually URLs | 18:44:52 |
| raitobezarius | there, they're not about flakes anymore | 18:45:00 |
| roberth | I've called them sourcerefs occasionally when talking about fetchTree | 18:45:33 |
| roberth | flakref = sourceref + ?dir | 18:45:49 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | And also git's URL (but I think nowadays nix doesn't actually support some of these cuz fetchTree) is a huge mess too. Just ran into:
GIT_TRACE=1 git clone "xokdvium@[localhost]hahahahahahhahaha:/~/work/code/nix"
| 18:46:09 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Any bets if this works or not? | 18:46:16 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | * And also git's URL (scp-like paths they call these) (but I think nowadays nix doesn't actually support some of these cuz fetchTree) is a huge mess too. Just ran into:
GIT_TRACE=1 git clone "xokdvium@[localhost]hahahahahahhahaha:/~/work/code/nix"
| 18:47:04 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | is -I supposed to behave differently of NIX_PATH? | 18:47:21 |
| raitobezarius | yes | 18:47:26 |
| raitobezarius | because -I uses the setting system | 18:47:46 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | Is this documented somewhere? what is the intended behavior? | 18:47:59 |
| raitobezarius | in many reasonable software, an environment variable serves to seed an initial default | 18:48:32 |
| raitobezarius | there's 3 provenances for the setting system: NIX_CONF, the default settings file locations, -I | 18:49:07 |
| raitobezarius | and 1 provenance via env var: NIX_PATH | 18:49:12 |
