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8 Mar 2025
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
fwiw Nix 2.3 is also buggy. it just has different bugs.
It's simpler
18:20:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand I suspect Nixpkgs will not support being evaluated with 2.3 for much longer18:20:45
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet
In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
and I suspect Nixpkgs will not support being evaluated with 2.3 for much longer
Small features can be easily added
18:21:41
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetAnd it's so much easier to fix bugs when touching every code path doesn't break some flake-related stuff18:22:20
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetThe other option would be to take Lix's code and tear everything flake-related out of it18:27:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @weethet:catgirl.cloud
The other option would be to take Lix's code and tear everything flake-related out of it
we push it to its own libflakes and then someday we will see how to split it up (while providing it as part of the some normal distribution of Lix obviously)
18:28:06
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetNix 2.3 has 40k sloc, while 2.26 has 89k18:44:02
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetAnd nix 2.26 has 7 times as many files as nix 2.318:45:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusand alas 2.3 is pretty much dead18:45:24
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@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetI would expect it to be dead, doesn't mean it's unusable18:46:00
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetAnd doesn't mean you can't use it as a starting point18:46:11
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@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/12615 | Enabling UBSAN in CI checks I think that's something that lots of people really wanted to see and meson migration / per-component packaging overrides now make it possible.22:10:49
9 Mar 2025
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakariadoes ca-derivations use source: in the fingerprint or the fixed:output ?06:02:20
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakariai'm having trouble doing the hash calculation by hand06:08:21
@puck:puck.moepuckit's the normal format for CA store paths08:55:04
@puck:puck.moepuck tho you'll have to make sure you take the references and the -{output name} quirks in account, since FODs don't have those 08:56:27
@puck:puck.moepuckyeah, just checked, it's CA, hashed over the nar and sha25609:01:49
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@connorbaker:matrix.orgconnor (burnt/out) (UTC-8)

tomberek: I was working on a PR to use immutable lists (https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/11767) and was working on shrinking the size of the Value structure (https://github.com/ConnorBaker/nix/commits/feat/tagged-values/). Both of them are what made me want to give my talk.

I don’t have a PR for the primitives — I think the first step would be to survey the ways we most commonly interact (or want to interact) with the data structures. Then, choosing primitives that enable those interactions and compose well. Then, choosing implementations for the data structures that make those primitives fast.

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10 Mar 2025
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11 Mar 2025
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