| 1 Nov 2025 |
 dramforever | on nix hydra or nixpkgs hydra? | 20:52:23 |
 emily | latter, but if they differ I assume only due to former's Nixpkgs lagging behind | 20:53:09 |
| dramforever | hmm... that's not really worse than the nixos.org/nix/install installer, right? | 20:54:02 |
| emily | no, I'm just speaking to my impression of the static build's maintenance state | 20:56:20 |
| dramforever | right, so i guess at least for now it's not a great thing to be shipping to users | 20:57:08 |
| emily | the failures have not always been due to regressions in other packages IIRC, but it's been a while since I checked. just know my last nixpkgs-review failed to build it | 20:57:18 |
 Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | In reply to @dramforever:matrix.org
i've never been quite sure - what's the support status of statically linked nix? it's something i've found genuinely incredibly convenient... but the only way i know to download one is to dig from hydra which seems not ideal Generally it’s the dependencies that are broken in nixpkgs. Nix’s jobset from a release branch (e.g. 2.32-maintenance) is a well supported as the regular dynamically linked nix. | 21:58:59 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Since nix’s nixpkgs flake input is from a stable release for the better part of the nixpkgs release cycle it tends to get fixed. | 21:59:52 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | In reply to @dramforever:matrix.org
right, so i guess at least for now it's not a great thing to be shipping to users I don’t understand how you get that conclusion tho. It’s not nix that is poorly maintained, but the dependencies that spontaneously explode in nixpkgs. As always though it’s not a great idea to use the ‘masterjobset for anything other than dogfooding. Using anything from*-maintenance` is perfectly fine and supported | 22:02:42 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | In reply to @dramforever:matrix.org
right, so i guess at least for now it's not a great thing to be shipping to users * I don’t understand how you get that conclusion tho. It’s not nix that is poorly maintained, but the dependencies that spontaneously explode in nixpkgs. As always though it’s not a great idea to use the master jobset for anything other than dogfooding. Using anything from*-maintenance` is perfectly fine and supported | 22:02:59 |
| emily | it's definitely not just failing deps, e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/nixStatic.aarch64-darwin/all and https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/nixStatic.x86_64-linux/all both have direct failures that persisted for quite some time | 22:12:20 |
| emily | (and some of the dep issues I've seen regress nixStatic have been e.g. on Nix version updates pulling in new ones, which is an in-between case I suppose) | 22:12:40 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Well, dramforever s question was about the nix jobset - not the nixpkgs one. | 22:13:44 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | It’s always been Jörg that fixed static build issues on master nixpkgs, but that seems to be a never-ending battle. The less troublesome way seems to be keeping the static build in a working shape in all nix jobsets and fix nixpkgs master around the branch off when nix switches the nixpkgs input around | 22:16:54 |
| 2 Nov 2025 |
|  connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8) changed their display name from connor (burnt/out) (UTC-7) to connor (burnt/out) (UTC-8). | 08:13:02 |
|  Martin Joerg joined the room. | 12:14:51 |
 fzakaria | pre-commit finally built on aarch64 | 16:25:26 |
| fzakaria | https://hydra.nixos.org/build/310233081 | 16:25:27 |
| fzakaria | can someone try to re-merge https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/14345 ? | 18:47:07 |
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| 3 Nov 2025 |
 Mic92 | maralorn: I wonder what we could do to mitigate this situation: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/14364#issuecomment-3479674426 | 09:50:08 |
 maralorn | I opened https://github.com/maralorn/nix-output-monitor/issues/206 | 10:06:39 |
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 lovesegfault | I'm running ~10min late to the meeting but coming! | 17:12:16 |
| Mic92 | https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-maintainers monday meeting. | 17:37:05 |
| Mic92 | Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium): https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/458072#issuecomment-3481595336 which pr was it again, where you restored performance? | 17:57:27 |
| Mic92 | * Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium): https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/458072#issuecomment-3481595336 what pr was it again, where you restored performance? | 17:57:42 |
| Mic92 | nix 2.32 | 17:57:49 |
| Mic92 | lovesegfault: https://github.com/GNOME/mutter/blob/fae3d35366831e089e42570ca73ad60d62b08d4b/.gitlab-ci/coverity-model.c#L4 | 18:17:40 |
| lovesegfault | fzakaria:
[39/483] Generating src/kaitai-struct-checks/kaitai-generated-sources with a custom command
../src/kaitai-struct-checks/nar.ksy: /types/padded_str/seq/1/encoding:
warning: use canonical encoding name `ASCII` instead of `ascii` (see https://doc.kaitai.io/ksy_style_guide.html#encoding-name)
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