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20 Oct 2025
@lovesegfault:matrix.orglovesegfaultAlright, there's a lot of room for bike shedding, but the RequiredSignatures in nix-cache-info idea is up: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/1431322:32:52
21 Oct 2025
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakaria

Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium): that makes sense
but isn't this 2 step exactly what has to happen now anyways with FODs?

The confusing part is that the inputDrvs for non-FODs are not replaced with their output path but FODs are when caculating the out paths.

The drv's path though is just the hash of the ATerm ?This has the side-effect of causing brand new drvs for the whole system tree since drvs are just the hash of their ATerm without substitution?

00:02:43
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakariaI was going to explore the Katai struct. Is nars.sh and nar-access.sh the only NAR tests?00:04:46
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)
In reply to @fzakaria:one.ems.host
I was going to explore the Katai struct. Is nars.sh and nar-access.sh the only NAR tests?
Some invalid cases in libutil-tests/archive.cc also
00:05:36
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakaria should nix nar ls work on NAR that only have a single file ? 04:28:31
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakariaI started the kaitai spec here: https://github.com/fzakaria/nix-nar-kaitai-spec/tree/main tested directories and regular files so far. There is a test program that is mostly AI generated i need to fix05:08:27
@fzakaria:one.ems.hostfzakariahttps://github.com/fzakaria/nix-nar-kaitai-spec/blob/main/NAR.ksy05:08:55
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof no, --outputs will list all outputs of the derivation. --tree and --graph(ml) are basically recursive versions of --references which shows the inputs (but only shows 'derivation X depends on derivation Y', not 'derivation X depends on output Z of derivation Y') 11:13:45
@juliankuners:matrix.orgJulian

Hey there,

I am currently investigating nix assertion errors that consistently appear once in a while in our CI. Only MacOS machines are affected by this and the error persists until the nix store is garbage collected. It also only persists on the same user on the machine.

[...]
using cache entry 'fetchToStore:{"fingerprint":"3f0bf132df94785670cb324fbb759e85ff5ad0b6","method":"nar","name":"source","path":"/","store":"/nix/store"}' -> 'null', '/nix/store/72alw9m62226brv4v4m98fqrk31mlp34-source'
store path cache hit for '«github:runtimeverification/k/3f0bf132df94785670cb324fbb759e85ff5ad0b6?narHash=sha256-SYrGoV4PuOWux7d4nYhluWD515%2B9sh0DjAMcEDbREVM%3D»/nix/store/8ck644nfh5mb5dqkzgvqhfbznsk1n4df-source'
custom debug: storePath='72alw9m62226brv4v4m98fqrk31mlp34-source' originalInput.computeStorePath(*state.store)='8ck644nfh5mb5dqkzgvqhfbznsk1n4df-source'
Assertion failed: (!originalInput.getNarHash() || storePath == originalInput.computeStorePath(*state.store)), function copyInputToStore, file ../flake.cc, line 40.

This is the assertion that is violated though the check has since been moved in master. We currently run nix version 2.31.2.

So essentially the two nix store paths differ due to existing and non-existing submodule directories, without their content and also somewhat their parent directory, see:

% diff -qr expected instead | sort
Only in expected/haskell-backend/src/main: native
Only in expected/llvm-backend/src/main: native
Only in expected/web: k-web-theme

Does anybody see what could be wrong here or where to look for bugs in nix? I will probably continue to debug this, but there's a lot going on in nix that I am not aware of yet.

13:29:59
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) Generally flake inputs with submodules should not be cached for this reason (the fetchToStore cache entry from the fingerprint -> store path). Maybe that’s the broken part? 13:53:43
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)does it end up in the cache with submodules enabled and disabled?13:56:32
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)For the same git revision13:56:51

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