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29 Mar 2026
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianActually they use it for not just eval and also build... But just for eval is already interestinh18:17:52
30 Mar 2026
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@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue, I am not too exactly some user choose to make it required and some don't. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use.). 13:14:56
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some user choose to make it required and some don't. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use.). 13:15:18
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use.). 13:15:34
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't from what I was reading. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use.). 13:15:50
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't from what I was reading. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use when some languages like nix don't deal with floating points often.). 13:17:25
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't from what I was reading. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers (if it's not required, The question is what is it's use when some languages like nix don't deal with floating points often). 13:17:28
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't from what I was reading. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers, if it's not required, The question is what is it's use when some languages like nix don't deal with floating points often? 13:17:41
@eveeifyeve:matrix.orgeveeifyeve * Eelco: It's really interesting looking through the movement on NaN canonicalization wasm issue for builtins.wasm pr, I am not too exactly some runtimes choose to make it required and some don't from what I was reading. It might be a good to get some idea from the wasm developers, if it's not required, The question is what is it's use when some languages like nix don't deal with floating points often? Like are we expected to handle or ignore these? 13:18:17
31 Mar 2026
@pleune:matrix.orgPleune changed their display name from mitchpleune to Pleune.02:01:16
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat I noticed when looking around Hydra that now tests.nix-copy very often fails, even on multiple older Nix branches, e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/build/325164327#tabs-buildsteps 07:04:53
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * I noticed when looking around Hydra that now tests.nix-copy very often fails, even on multiple older Nix branches, e.g. https://hydra.nixos.org/build/325164327#tabs-buildsteps or https://hydra.nixos.org/build/325166328 07:05:40
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)I’ve seen a lot of nixosTests timing out because backdoor service doesn’t spin up or something along those lines. It seems like something borked with vm tests machinery08:15:32
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)In nix-copy specifically I think we just lack some synchronisation between server/client08:18:18
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)

This seems like a smoking gun:


client: waiting for Password: to appear on screen
server # [  356.772255] sshd[897]: Timeout before authentication for connection from 2001:db8:1::1 to 2001:db8:1::2, pid = 1023
08:30:38
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen I am getting this warning/error on Fedora with nix-2.34:
warning: unable to download 'https://channels.nixos.org/flake-registry.json': Problem with the SSL CA cert (path? access rights?) (77) error adding trust anchors from file: ; using cached version
Any ideas? (nix-2.33 seems okay)
10:00:16
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)Hm, that’s with the release binaries, right? Wonder why the path is empty10:43:38
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium): no it is a fedora build 11:15:45
@juhp:matrix.orgJens Petersen Okay thanks Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) - seems i need to set ssl-cert-file now 11:29:57
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)For onlookers, Jens shared that fedora 44 is removing the default PEM certs https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/droppingOfCertPemFile11:42:22
@xokdvium:matrix.orgSergei Zimmerman (xokdvium)Not a nix change11:42:55
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@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforever so if i have multiple nix processes on the same --store that each may build stuff and/or run gc, are these supposed to be synchronized? 15:17:05
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforeveri've been playing around with gc races and i'm getting all sorts of exciting errors by doing this, even with https://github.com/NixOS/nix/pull/15469 applied15:17:36
@dramforever:matrix.orgdramforever

the recipe:

  • run two of while nix -vvv --min-free 512T --no-auto-optimise-store --store teststore/ build --no-link nixpkgs#pkgsCross.riscv64.hello ; do : ; done
  • run one of while nix -vvv --min-free 512T --no-auto-optimise-store --store teststore/ store gc; do : ; done
    put them each in a tmux pane and watch the chaos unfold
15:21:30

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