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 John Ericson | check points tests like this are very nice, and will be good for conformance test for standard if we ever want to go there | 21:08:09 |
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 jakobkukla | Hi, what's the state of the experimental nix installer? Any areas where one can help? I need a modern installer for use at work and really would prefer to use an upstream implementation. | 18:48:56 |
 Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Mic92 took a stab at syncing with detsys master and ripping out things at https://github.com/NixOS/experimental-nix-installer/pull/51. | 18:59:04 |
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 Taeer Bar-Yam | auto arena = es.mem.exprs.alloc;
decltype(attrs) foo = {std::move(attrs), arena};
attrs = {};
new (&attrs) decltype(attrs){std::move(foo), arena};
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| John Ericson | Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium): I forgot that I do need your file descriptor source accessor work also because that is how I want the mini recursive nix to add to store | 23:24:52 |
| John Ericson | (send a file descriptor over the socket, add whatever that refers to to the store) | 23:25:20 |
| John Ericson | if you want to open a draft PR, that would be great! | 23:59:52 |
| 18 Nov 2025 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | I'm a bit stumped as to how best to handle FDs that are not for directories. There isn't a great portable way to reopen an FD on systems other than linux... | 00:01:33 |
| John Ericson | can you open /dev/fd/N? | 00:02:01 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Only on linux | 00:02:20 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | As in you need procfs, not /dev/fd | 00:02:31 |
| John Ericson | I think /dev/fd might work? | 00:02:51 |
| John Ericson | don't have a mac at hand, however | 00:03:13 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | The problem with sending fds with source accessors would really be with handling things at the top-level. No way to express a single symlink or not very easy to have a single file as well | 00:16:32 |
| Sergei Zimmerman (xokdvium) | Dunno what your idea was for the varlink interface. Maybe passing an FD for a directory and having a subdir in there as the top-level NAR member would be better? Otherwise you can't have all the type of NARs without also making them part of the data model | 00:21:22 |
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