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31 Mar 2025
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson raitobezarius: I am not even arguing with you 20:52:01
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyhow can Nixpkgs and Nix communicate if y'all aren't even on the same page about packaging and defaults?20:52:04
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonstop being slimy20:52:05
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonlix has a fix, it ilooks good20:52:14
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonwe're happy to take it20:52:18
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonthe end20:52:19
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonif there is a bug in the multitide of ways (too many!) fetchers can cash or not cash20:52:37
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonit shuold be fixed20:52:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariussorry that you get that feeling, i am only repeating that it would be nice to mark output path changes as such and to verify those before sending a release20:52:48
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyI know it will cost you to postpone a bump until early on the next release cycle but you don't seem to fully appreciate the costs on our end, and offloading them to us will just give us 2.18 forever20:52:50
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI don't recall anyone touching that code recently, except for maybe eelco fixing a regression about whehter fetching should substitute20:53:09
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusfixing a crash does not always mean diverging the output path calculation20:53:17
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonif it was a bug fix that caused a new issue, that's unfortuately (and a bit ironic)20:53:29
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonbut still goes to "no one has been tryign to do fancy new feature stuff here recently"20:53:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbut i feel like i'm derailing the important discussion emily is trying to have20:53:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso let's leave it at it20:53:51
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonok, thank you. By all means, I don't want you all to have to bend backwards to be bug-for-bug compatible with us :)20:54:19
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonso for any changes that looks unintentional, yes very good to let us know20:54:39
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonwe'll happy go back to older behavior that is unambiguously better20:55:00
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson emily: I'm trying to offload no costs 20:55:25
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn EricsonI am saying I am personally gonna bare the burden of this as much as possible20:56:02
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericsonuntil the new Nixpkgs is out20:56:05
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson(and I will have some new on-the-job time for Nix things I can put towards this)20:56:27
@Ericson2314:matrix.orgJohn Ericson(as opposed to the less-good promise of after-hours time)20:56:44

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