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8 Mar 2025
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet I still sometimes catch myself running nix-shell -p npins --command "npins init" instead of nix flake init and have to remove npins directory 18:15:33
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet * 18:16:03
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily you could use nix(1) without flakes. dunno if that would solve the nix-shell thing. probably not. 18:17:01
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetnix-command is too tightly coupled with flakes for me, can you even use nix shell without them?18:18:03
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet Same for nix run 18:18:12
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet I sometimes feel like the best course of action for me would be to fork nix 2.3 and work on improving it instead 18:19:23
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily yes, they support -f 18:19:37
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet
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yes, they support -f
It implies impure
18:19:49
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily --expr then. (btw, maybe we should move this out of #nix-dev:nixos.org) 18:20:14
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetWhere18:20:21
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily #users:nixos.org? 18:20:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyfwiw Nix 2.3 is also buggy. it just has different bugs.18:20:32
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet
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fwiw Nix 2.3 is also buggy. it just has different bugs.
It's simpler
18:20:43
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyand I suspect Nixpkgs will not support being evaluated with 2.3 for much longer18:20:45
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHet
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and I suspect Nixpkgs will not support being evaluated with 2.3 for much longer
Small features can be easily added
18:21:41
@weethet:catgirl.cloudWeetHetAnd it's so much easier to fix bugs when touching every code path doesn't break some flake-related stuff18:22:20

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