| 2 May 2024 |
 joepie91 🏳️🌈 | untested backups are not backups etc. | 16:07:31 |
 edef | hmm, i'm a little troubled by deleted messages for something that is intended to be a medium of record | 16:07:54 |
|  @colin:uninsane.org changed their display name from cached failure of attribute 'colin' to Colin. | 16:08:08 |
|  infinisil changed the room name to "Zulip setup coordination" from "Nix Community Governance". | 16:08:18 |
| infinisil changed the room topic to "Coordination to setup https://nixpkgs.zulipchat.com/, see https://github.com/NixOS/foundation/issues/143" from "Discussions regarding a community-based governance: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-foundation-board-giving-power-to-the-community/44552". | 16:08:18 |
 raitobezarius | 
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| raitobezarius | In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
hmm, i'm a little troubled by deleted messages for something that is intended to be a medium of record do you want to disable deletion? | 16:08:23 |
| raitobezarius | we can disable deletion | 16:08:25 |
| edef | either that, or it might be worth doing exports somewhat frequently if we can | 16:08:57 |
| edef | eg if a message has stuck around for 10 minutes, it's probably part of the record | 16:09:11 |
| raitobezarius | full export with members consent require an email to Zulip | 16:09:18 |
| edef | if you're flashing messages for a second abusively, then that's a moderation matter i think | 16:09:25 |
| raitobezarius | Do you want me to test this too, joepie91 🏳️🌈 ? | 16:09:26 |
 @djacu:matrix.org | In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
either that, or it might be worth doing exports somewhat frequently if we can why not both? | 16:09:28 |
| raitobezarius | Or is that reasonable enough? | 16:09:30 |
| edef | but it might be worth just disabling deletion given the nature of the venue | 16:09:46 |
| raitobezarius | Redacted or Malformed Event | 16:09:47 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | raitobezarius: if you can verify that the messages json is not literally empty, I'm happy | 16:09:50 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | LGTM | 16:10:05 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | (you would be surprised how many systems produce empty JSONs upon export) | 16:10:36 |
| raitobezarius | :-) | 16:11:25 |
| joepie91 🏳️🌈 | try { return dumpThing() } catch (err) { return {}; } 🙃 | 16:11:35 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
but it might be worth just disabling deletion given the nature of the venue Can I get a sentiment of this room on this idea? ^ | 16:14:08 |
| raitobezarius | current setting: | 16:14:29 |
| raitobezarius | 
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| edef | ah, there is a time limit, i see | 16:14:46 |
| raitobezarius | related: | 16:14:48 |
| raitobezarius | 
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| raitobezarius | In reply to @edef1c:matrix.org
ah, there is a time limit, i see right now only admins can delete, so no time limit | 16:14:57 |
| edef | i think we might want to adjust on the basis of the pace of conversation | 16:15:09 |
