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5 Jan 2024
@lehmanator:gnulinux.club	In reply to @rootname:matrix.org Anyone else having stability issues with the latest build (32f63574c85f)? Gnome, only Gnome suddenly starts to "hang" and I have to wait a few seconds for it to respond again. I can't move the mouse or do anything. Just out of nowhere. I've had this & gnome wayland session segfaulting immediately. was thinking it was just some misconfiguration. no idea how i diagnose this. my jourmal has lots of errors.	05:34:54
@rootname:matrix.org	In reply to @lehmanator:gnulinux.club I've had this & gnome wayland session segfaulting immediately. was thinking it was just some misconfiguration. no idea how i diagnose this. my jourmal has lots of errors. How did you fix it?	11:03:33
Jan Tojnar	In reply to @vengmark2:matrix.org Right now, `programs.dconf.profiles.user.databases[N].settings` has a shallow structure like `"org/gnome/desktop/interface"`. Would it be a good idea to try to change this to support nested attrsets, as in `org.gnome.desktop.interface`? I do not think it is a good idea. See the PR introducing it for discussion.	11:47:47
@rootname:matrix.org	In reply to @rootname:matrix.org How did you fix it? I had a bad ram configuration in my bios	12:37:21
@lehmanator:gnulinux.club	In reply to @rootname:matrix.org How did you fix it? I havent yet	13:08:58
l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org I do not think it is a good idea. See the PR introducing it for discussion. Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615.	23:22:18
l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org I do not think it is a good idea. See the PR introducing it for discussion. * Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615, but GitHub "helpfully" hides most of the comments.	23:22:35
l0b0	* Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615, but GitHub "helpfully" hides most of the comments. Basically, currently we have attrsets above and below the `"org/[…]"` keys, so changing to a nested attrset would allow people to organise the contents like any other attrset (such as grouping `org.gnome` settings in a single attrset).	23:36:34
l0b0	* Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615, but GitHub "helpfully" hides most of the comments. Basically, currently we have attrsets above and below the `"org/[…]"` keys, so changing to a nested attrset would be more "natural", and would allow people to organise the contents like any other attrset (such as grouping `org.gnome` settings in a single attrset).	23:36:51
l0b0	* Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615, but GitHub "helpfully" hides most of the comments. Basically, currently we have attrsets above and below the `"org/[…]"` keys, so changing to a nested attrset would be more "natural", and would allow people to organise the contents like any other attrset (such as grouping `org.gnome` settings in a single attrset). We've done the same for example in `programs.git.config`.	23:37:24
6 Jan 2024
maxine (they/them)	Hm, is there a way to get GDM to not show a "fingerprint failed" message every time if I have fprintd explicitly disabled for login in pam?	00:32:51
Jan Tojnar	In reply to @vengmark2:matrix.org Do you have a link? I assume it's somewhere in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/234615, but GitHub "helpfully" hides most of the comments. Basically, currently we have attrsets above and below the `"org/[…]"` keys, so changing to a nested attrset would be more "natural", and would allow people to organise the contents like any other attrset (such as grouping `org.gnome` settings in a single attrset). We've done the same for example in `programs.git.config`. there was quite a bit of back and forth. If you use Refined GitHub browser extension, you can alt click a collapsed item and it will expand all collapsed items of that type.	01:41:20
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l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org there was quite a bit of back and forth. If you use Refined GitHub browser extension, you can alt click a collapsed item and it will expand all collapsed items of that type. Cool, FYI it's this discussion. The point about duplicate keys is well taken - that should probably be documented so that it doesn't come up again in an issue.	22:31:27
Jan Tojnar	l0b0: what do you mean about duplicate keys?	23:02:30
l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org l0b0: what do you mean about duplicate keys? This comment	23:17:19
l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org l0b0: what do you mean about duplicate keys? * This comment - IIUC we can't support that with nested attrsets.	23:17:55
Jan Tojnar	oh, right – but since we do not support nested attributes, it is not an issue currently	23:18:15
l0b0	In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org oh, right – but since we do not support nested attributes, it is not an issue currently That's what I mean - it's a good argument against moving to nested attrsets.	23:18:36
7 Jan 2024
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11 Jan 2024
K900	Can someone test that https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/280256 actually works as intended with GNOME?	10:57:43
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12 Jan 2024
nyanbinary	https://www.phoronix.com/news/GNOME-46-Alpha-Released \| Gnome 46 Alpha Released	16:10:17
13 Jan 2024
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14 Jan 2024
hpfr	can someone explain the partial `gnome` namespacing in nixpkgs? I am confused why a few packages are at the top level. it looks like mostly new ones like loupe and gnome-console. should the rest of the namespace get top level names for consistency (with deprecated `gnome` aliases for backwards compatibility)? thanks for any info :)	02:52:54
hpfr	I am not referring to `gnome-` prefixes btw, those are consistently for packages that use generic names rather than codenames and match with upstream. instead I mean e.g. `gnome.gnome-music` as opposed to just `gnome-music`, or `gnome.totem` as opposed to just `totem`	02:54:09
Jan Tojnar	hpfr: we are adding new stuff to top-level since there is not much of a point to namespace, eventually, we are going to moving all/most stuff to top-level but it is not a priority	11:40:44
Jan Tojnar	* hpfr: we are adding new stuff to top-level since there is not much of a point to namespace, eventually, we are going to move all/most stuff to top-level but it is not a priority	11:40:59
Jan Tojnar	* hpfr: we are adding new stuff to top-level since there is not much of a point to namespace, eventually, we are going to move all/most stuff to top-level but it is not a priority so it might take a while	11:41:17

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