| 24 Nov 2023 |
 jayhenks | was photos app removed in gnome 45? | 15:16:49 |
| jayhenks | i do not have it anymore | 15:16:56 |
 Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | In reply to @jayhenks:matrix.org
was photos app removed in gnome 45? It's replaced with Image viewer (Loupe)
23.11 (WIP) release note:
- GNOME has been updated to version 45, see the [release notes](https://release.gnome.org/45/) for details. Notably, Loupe has replaced Eye of GNOME as the default image viewer, Snapshot has replaced Cheese as the default camera application, and Photos will no longer be installed.
| 15:24:16 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | It can still be manually installed I think | 15:25:28 |
| jayhenks | In reply to @hubofeverything:bark.lgbt
It's replaced with Image viewer (Loupe)
23.11 (WIP) release note:
- GNOME has been updated to version 45, see the [release notes](https://release.gnome.org/45/) for details. Notably, Loupe has replaced Eye of GNOME as the default image viewer, Snapshot has replaced Cheese as the default camera application, and Photos will no longer be installed.
huh, but loupe does not really do the same as photos. Instead of showing all your photos in a nice grid you just have to click through them all | 15:30:33 |
| jayhenks | and also select the directories | 15:31:04 |
| jayhenks | or am i wrong? | 15:32:59 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | In reply to @jayhenks:matrix.org
huh, but loupe does not really do the same as photos. Instead of showing all your photos in a nice grid you just have to click through them all I'm not sure | 15:36:38 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | It was updated because of GTK4, an aging codebase, GPU acceleration etc
Outlined here:
https://blogs.gnome.org/sophieh/2023/08/30/viewing-images-in-gnome-loupe-and-glycin/
and https://apps.gnome.org/Loupe/ | 15:39:07 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | Again, eog (gnome-photos) can be installed with systemPackages, but loupe is the new default AFAIK | 15:40:20 |
| jayhenks | In reply to @hubofeverything:bark.lgbt
Again, eog (gnome-photos) can be installed with systemPackages, but loupe is the new default AFAIK yeah, just a bit confusing for me as they actually server kinda different purposes | 15:41:27 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | I don't know enough about the two projects to comment further | 15:43:40 |
| 25 Nov 2023 |
|  @onscreenproton:kde.org joined the room. | 00:00:59 |
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| @adam:robins.wtf | Hi. There's a new release of fractal. Should I bump both fractal and fractal-next to v5? | 02:16:56 |
 uep | sounds good to me | 02:37:29 |
| uep | have been waiting for this | 02:37:41 |
| @adam:robins.wtf | linsui got to it while i was asleep. they turned fractal-next into an alias. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/269852 | 13:36:41 |
 Jan Tojnar | In reply to @jayhenks:matrix.org
huh, but loupe does not really do the same as photos. Instead of showing all your photos in a nice grid you just have to click through them all photos was removed without replacement, see https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2023/08/17/gnome-45-core-apps-update/ | 14:08:35 |
| jayhenks | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
photos was removed without replacement, see https://blogs.gnome.org/mcatanzaro/2023/08/17/gnome-45-core-apps-update/ Oh, interesting. Seems like not enough people cared about it | 23:17:39 |
| jayhenks | a bit sad | 23:17:42 |
| 26 Nov 2023 |
| uep | another minor annoyance (not at all nixos specific, I assume) - the process monitor graphs clip at 0% / 100% and look bad when all the cpus are busy.
| 09:58:59 |
| uep | 
Download Screenshot from 2023-11-26 09-02-56.png | 10:05:20 |
| uep | I'm guessing a consequence of changes as part of moving to gtk4 or something | 10:08:33 |
| uep | have to muster the energy to report upstream | 10:08:43 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | In reply to @hubofeverything:bark.lgbt
Re: displayport instability on 23.11
Nov 24 06:06:16 Gulo-Laptop systemd[2731]: Starting GNOME Shell on Wayland...
Nov 24 06:06:16 Gulo-Laptop .gnome-shell-wr[2907]: Running GNOME Shell (using mutter 45.1) as a Wayland display server
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop .gnome-shell-wr[2907]: Made thread 'KMS thread' realtime scheduled
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop .gnome-shell-wr[2907]: Device '/dev/dri/card1' prefers shadow buffer
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop systemd[2731]: org.gnome.Shell@wayland.service: Main process exited, code=killed, status=9/KILL
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop systemd[2731]: org.gnome.Shell@wayland.service: Failed with result 'signal'.
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop systemd[2731]: Failed to start GNOME Shell on Wayland.
Nov 24 06:06:17 Gulo-Laptop systemd[2731]: org.gnome.Shell@wayland.service: Triggering OnFailure= dependencies.
Still a problem on commit e42a638b | 12:16:34 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | I can't use my third monitor reliably, gnome shell keeps crashing | 12:19:21 |
| Hubble the Wolverine (they/them) | Sometimes it crashes on connect, and is able to run, but other times it crashes and is just not able to start | 12:19:46 |
 @lotte:chir.rs | what does systemd-coredumpctl info say about the crashes? | 12:36:21 |
