| 29 Jun 2025 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenith (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenith), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:10 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | * Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenity (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenith), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:21 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | * Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenity (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenity), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:33 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | P.S. how do I stracein this case? | 17:34:54 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | In reply to @jaafar:kde.orgYou justP.S. how do I
 stracein this case? strace zedor whatever and upload the log to somewhere. Ideally triggering the behavior, then killing by keyboard interrupt to avoid unnecessary log spam. And also ideally using a problematic program that doesn't itself spam a bunch of logs, anything non-gui would be appreciated but probably a tall ask by problem domain | 17:36:34 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | But try the zenith thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is likely more like 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:38:09 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | * But try the zenity thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is likely more like 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:38:34 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | * But try the zenity thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is at most 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:40:19 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | You probably also want to make sure you don't have apparmor or anything set to block dbus calls, that has bitten me in the past too. But very few people actually try to use that stuff on nix... | 17:42:06 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.deBefore trying your suggestions, I tried installing Nautilus since I didn't have it. And now the file pickers seem to work.You probably also want to make sure you don't have apparmor or anything set to block dbus calls, that has bitten me in the past too. But very few people actually try to use that stuff on nix...
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|  Grimmauld (any/all) | huh | 19:05:20 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | Yeah. | 19:06:43 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | Though Nautilus doesn't have its icon for whatever reason. | 19:07:04 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.orgNevermind; a quick log-out and log-in fixed that, too.Though Nautilus doesn't have its icon for whatever reason.
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|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @jaafar:kde.orgIt might be that your portals setup is mangled due to thisMy wild guess is that it's something that has to do with my choice of display manager, which is COSMIC Comp rather than GDM. I know that GNOME needs GDM for "some features", but I don't know if the file picker is one of them.
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|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Applications interact with the desktop's file picker via xdg desktop portals. | 19:55:51 | 
|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | My recommendation is to use GDM for GNOME | 19:56:48 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | Sure. Though it's a bit finnickey with my monitor. | 19:58:59 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | * | 19:59:10 | 
|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @jaafar:kde.orgThis also might be due to dconf settings being set incorrectly, usually happens when switching from a non-GNOME de to GNOME (like KDE Plasma)Though Nautilus doesn't have its icon for whatever reason.
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|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | So you should also reset all dconf variables ( dconf reset /) | 20:00:39 | 
|  jasi 🏳️⚧️ | There also may be leftover gtkrc files in your home dir that also may need to be cleaned up | 20:01:14 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | I just did that, and... I should have probably backed up all the config options I had lol | 20:02:18 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | * | 20:02:40 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | * | 20:02:49 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | * | 20:03:34 | 
|  @jaafar:kde.org | * | 20:03:48 | 
|  Grimmauld (any/all) | oh yeah i forgot those are stateful and tend to screw with shit lol, i just have those pinned in hm... | 20:20:59 |