| 23 Feb 2025 |
 Oro (any/all) | It's also missing the X11 implementation, but I won't be doing that, unless someone else helps out and does most of the work. So Wayland-only for now. | 17:45:52 |
| 24 Feb 2025 |
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| Oro (any/all) | also maybe interesting to yall: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/384705 | 09:00:46 |
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 Jan Tojnar | Generally, we try to stick as close to upstream as possible. We will sometimes make exceptions for bug fixes but still the MR should at least be merged upstream unless it is something critical. Patches introducing new features are too much of a maintenance burden. | 14:38:51 |
| Jan Tojnar | * Generally, we try to stick as close to upstream as possible. We will sometimes make exceptions for bug fixes but still the MR should at least be merged upstream unless it is something critical. Each additional patch introduces maintenance burden and we do not think introducing new features is worth it. | 14:39:53 |
| Oro (any/all) | That's fair. I think upstream is hoping to get it somewhere in the 48 release cycle (whot's interested, and the string freeze exception has 1 ACK, though not sure if the latter means it has a change of getting accepted), but maybe it could be backported if/when it's merged? | 18:43:37 |
| 2 Mar 2025 |
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| Fernando | Hello, I've been playing around with Plymouth | 16:29:13 |
| Fernando | is it possible to get a smooth transition from plymouth to gdm to gnome shell? right now I get a black screen and then gnome-shell pops up after autologin | 16:29:50 |
 K900 | Depends on your hardware and display configuration | 16:30:29 |
| K900 | Generally anything involving Nvidia, or multiple displays, or X11 will require a modeset | 16:30:44 |
 emily | the technical term here is "flicker-free boot" | 16:33:38 |
| emily | it is a goal of developers of the Linux graphics and desktop stack that has been pursued for over a decade now | 16:33:54 |
| Fernando | it's amd and wayland for the matter | 16:33:58 |
| K900 | How many displays, which exact AMD, which kernel version? | 16:34:13 |
| emily | I believe if you are lucky and have a suitable setup it is possible to achieve in practice these days, but there's still caveats and tricky things | 16:34:18 |
| Fernando | so I've been playing with the KCL, and I do get a flicker-free boot from cold start into plymouth, but I'm missing the fade from plymouth into gnome-shell with autologin | 16:34:33 |
| Fernando | I can try without autologin though | 16:34:40 |
| emily | FWIW, I believe Intel drivers are the furthest ahead for this, but K900 will know more up-to-date info than me. | 16:34:44 |
| emily | my guess is that the flicker is when it switches from the EFI FB driver to amdgpu, but I could be totally off here | 16:35:33 |
| Fernando | without autologin (no gdm skip) seems to do the same: plymouth -> spinner stops -> black screen -> gdm | 16:37:25 |
| K900 | ^ | 16:37:37 |
| Fernando | How many displays: 1, which exact AMD: ryzen 7 7840U, which kernel version?: 6.13.4
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| K900 | Try boot.initrd.kernelModules = [ "amdgpu" ] | 16:39:53 |
| Fernando | now I get no spinner and a black screen into GDM, lol | 16:42:53 |
| K900 | Then it's very likely your firmware is not setting the display to the correct mode | 16:43:57 |
| Fernando | no idea then | 16:54:07 |
| K900 | In general any sort of flicker free anything requires the early boot firmware to cooperate | 16:54:31 |
