| 27 Apr 2023 |
 uep | so if it actually is XWayland that could be bypassing it | 15:15:14 |
| uep | * FWIW, I haven't seen any such problem, using vscode and signal and (until recently) teams, and I have environment.sessionVariables.NIXOS_OZONE_WL = "1"; | 15:15:55 |
 @maralorn:maralorn.de | I have it with signal. So XWayland might be it. | 18:26:51 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
FWIW, I haven't seen any such problem, using vscode and signal and (until recently) teams, and I have environment.sessionVariables.NIXOS_OZONE_WL = "1"; I'll try that. | 18:27:06 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
FWIW, I haven't seen any such problem, using vscode and signal and (until recently) teams, and I have environment.sessionVariables.NIXOS_OZONE_WL = "1"; Yeah, that fixes it. | 18:57:31 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | Awesome, thanks! | 18:57:39 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | In reply to @uep:matrix.org
FWIW, I haven't seen any such problem, using vscode and signal and (until recently) teams, and I have environment.sessionVariables.NIXOS_OZONE_WL = "1"; Any blockers for making that the default? | 19:18:59 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | Is anyone else using pop-shell tiling? It works amazingly well in comparison to any gnome tiling plugin I have ever tried. Sadly it has the very unpleasing bug of randomly reshuffling windows.^^ that has happened before but it got more frequent when I switched to unstable. | 19:38:26 |
| uep | In reply to @maralorn:maralorn.de
Any blockers for making that the default? It kinda is the default for some apps / versions of chromium, iiuc. This just encourages the others that are lagging. | 23:21:17 |
| uep | In reply to @maralorn:maralorn.de
Is anyone else using pop-shell tiling? It works amazingly well in comparison to any gnome tiling plugin I have ever tried. Sadly it has the very unpleasing bug of randomly reshuffling windows.^^ that has happened before but it got more frequent when I switched to unstable. yes, and yes. | 23:21:50 |
| uep | in particular, it tends to shuffle windows towards the first virtual desktop, if they were started on the second or later ones and their space is free on the first - but just once, the first time the screen unlocks after they've been started | 23:23:21 |
| uep | it will sometimes also shuffle (say) a set of 4 instances of the same app, tiled on a single monitor, I think maybe based on which ones have generated alerts or popups or something. | 23:24:20 |
| uep | it's mildly annoying but mostly ignorable and, as you say, better than any other current option I have seen | 23:24:54 |
| uep | most of the other options seem to have serious issues with multi-monitor cases from what I can tell, and these issues might also be a lesser aspect of the same thing | 23:25:37 |
| uep | In reply to @maralorn:maralorn.de
Awesome, thanks! Cool! But also that tends to confirm that it should be filed as a bug upstream | 23:26:35 |
| @maralorn:maralorn.de | Not sure which upstream. Also had the issue with mumble. | 23:33:02 |
| uep | the suggestion above was mutter's XWayland | 23:33:29 |
| uep | (I don't know if that's the right suggestion either, but that's what I was referring to) | 23:34:40 |
| 28 Apr 2023 |
|  @kiber_ogur4ik:national.catposting.agency left the room. | 20:47:51 |
 Jeff | Is there something special that I need to add to my config to get the background apps showing up in the quick settings menu? | 21:35:04 |
 SigmaSquadron | You need GNOME 44, which is currently only available on NixOS 23.05. Switch to the unstable channel and upgrade your system. | 21:42:54 |
| Jeff | yep, already on unstable. fully up to date as of a few minutes ago | 21:45:25 |
| Jeff | I think that I may have found the answer... https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/12ydvct/background_apps_feature_not_working_in_gnome_44/ | 21:45:47 |
| Jeff | Looks like it only works with things that were installed as flatpaks | 21:46:05 |
| Jeff | If that's true, it's annoying as heck as I don't need flatpak on NixOS | 21:47:10 |
| uep | wtf | 22:05:50 |
 Jan Tojnar | Jeff: yeah, support for non-flatpak apps is not currently implemented https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-shell/-/issues/3699 | 23:19:54 |
