| 10 Jan 2025 |
 Jan Tojnar | it did https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/372770, if someones test it, I can merge | 22:40:11 |
|  SigmaSquadron changed their display name from SigmaSquadron (Away until 2024-01-11) to SigmaSquadron (Away until 2025-01-11). | 22:43:17 |
| 11 Jan 2025 |
| SigmaSquadron changed their display name from SigmaSquadron (Away until 2025-01-11) to SigmaSquadron. | 15:06:39 |
| 13 Jan 2025 |
 Jeff | What's the NixOS policy on updating GTK4 and libadwaita. Unstable is quite a bit behind the current stable releases. | 19:25:07 |
| Jeff | * What's the NixOS policy on updating GTK4 and libadwaita? Unstable is quite a bit behind the current stable releases. | 19:25:20 |
 K900 | GTK updates have to go through staging | 19:26:34 |
| K900 | I assume libadwaita too though I have not checkd | 19:26:40 |
| K900 | * I assume libadwaita too though I have not checked | 19:26:41 |
| K900 | But we have a GTK update in staging-next and it should be landing soon-ish | 19:26:51 |
| Jeff | ah ok, i'm finding the PRs now. my GH search-fu was failing me earlier | 19:30:48 |
| Jeff | Except that I'm not seeing any evidence that GTK4 or libadwaita are being updated. They are still at 4.16.3 and 1.6.2 in master and none of the recent "Gnome update" PRs touch them. | 19:44:06 |
| K900 | GTK4 is 4.16.7 on staging-next | 19:45:00 |
| Jeff | So basically what's in Gnome 47.2. From that I infer that the policy is any Gnome package only gets updated when the Gnome project issues a full Gnome minor release rather than individual packages getting updated as they are released (barring emergencies). | 19:58:29 |
| K900 | You'd have to ask @Jan Tojnar probably | 20:00:07 |
| K900 | I'm just here for the cross-DE change coordination and occasional staging grumbling | 20:00:23 |
 emily | probably keeping synced with gnome releases helps avoid breaking gnome | 20:01:47 |
| emily | (and reduces maintainer burden?) | 20:01:51 |
 Alyssa Ross | any time I've PRed e.g. an update to a "GNOME package" early it's been accepted | 20:24:25 |
| 14 Jan 2025 |
| Jan Tojnar | We bump all packages we can when we have time, last one for staging was https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/369753 | 22:35:37 |
| Jan Tojnar | libadwaita should be fine to master – < 1000 rebuilds and mostly affecting leaf packages. example: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/358327 | 22:41:09 |
| 15 Jan 2025 |
 sachesi | Hello, can we remove x11 session from gdm? | 10:08:35 |
 Salt | I mean, I generally use x11 on my desktop because there isn't a good screensaver solution on wayland yet. I've been working on modifying a script to manually trigger xscreensaver with wayland tools, but haven't gotten it stable enough to rely upon and while the locking function isn't important to me, having an interesting animation on multiple screens is... | 23:27:25 |
| emily | GNOME upstream is deprecating/removing the X11 sessions. fwiw. | 23:43:40 |
| emily | so it is only a matter of time | 23:43:53 |
| 16 Jan 2025 |
| Jan Tojnar | and we are going to follow what upstream does | 00:09:24 |
| Salt | I'd suggest that such an impactful removal should be delayed until a release at least | 00:13:45 |
| emily | it wouldn't be backported to 24.11 of course | 00:16:58 |
 hexa | hey | 19:54:00 |
| hexa | I'm on sway and fractal wants to open a url with gtk::UriLauncher but instead opens the application picker | 19:54:31 |
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