| 25 Jun 2025 |
 @mcnesium:matrix.org | I think you have showed me that before. Thanks again, I will try to remember 😅 | 09:41:03 |
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| 27 Jun 2025 |
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| 29 Jun 2025 |
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| @jaafar:kde.org | File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? | 16:47:41 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? Other apps where file pickers don't work:
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| @jaafar:kde.org | My wild guess is that it's something that has to do with my choice of display manager, which is COSMIC Comp rather than GDM. I know that GNOME needs GDM for "some features", but I don't know if the file picker is one of them. | 16:55:06 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? * Other apps where file pickers don't work:
| 17:00:12 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? * Other apps where file pickers don't work:
- Steam (native)
- Ruffle (Adobe Flash emulator)
| 17:00:37 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? * Other apps where file pickers don't work:
- Steam (native)
- Ruffle (Adobe Flash emulator)
- Zed Editor
| 17:28:47 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
File picker works in some apps, doesn't work in others. For example, the Attach button in messaging apps like Fractal (Matrix client), Telegram Desktop, or Legcord should bring up a file picker, but doesn't. Adding a picture to the list of backgrounds in Settings has the same problem, and likewise in some of my Flatpak apps. File picker in other apps works, though, like WINE apps, Firefox, and KeePassXC, but I'm guessing the file picker in GTK3 apps is different from the one in GTK4/Libadwaita apps? Shot in the dark, but...
Try adding zenity to your $PATH, e.g. via environment.systemPackages.
If that doesn't work I am afraid you'll have to strace | 17:32:43 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.de
Shot in the dark, but...
Try adding zenity to your $PATH, e.g. via environment.systemPackages.
If that doesn't work I am afraid you'll have to strace Will try once I'm back on the computer | 17:34:08 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenith (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenith), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:10 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenity (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenith), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:21 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * Usually file pickers are opened via dbus, but some things directly call zenity (and expect it to exist). I know this is the case for sdl3 (which we patch to actually use an absolute path for zenity), I suspect there might be apps that lack such patches | 17:34:33 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | P.S. how do I strace in this case? | 17:34:54 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
P.S. how do I strace in this case? You just strace zed or whatever and upload the log to somewhere. Ideally triggering the behavior, then killing by keyboard interrupt to avoid unnecessary log spam. And also ideally using a problematic program that doesn't itself spam a bunch of logs, anything non-gui would be appreciated but probably a tall ask by problem domain | 17:36:34 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | But try the zenith thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is likely more like 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:38:09 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * But try the zenity thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is likely more like 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:38:34 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | * But try the zenity thing first, that's less effort and has a non-zero chance of working (though, admittedly, that chance is at most 20% if I had to guess...) | 17:40:19 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | You probably also want to make sure you don't have apparmor or anything set to block dbus calls, that has bitten me in the past too. But very few people actually try to use that stuff on nix... | 17:42:06 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @grimmauld:grapevine.grimmauld.de
You probably also want to make sure you don't have apparmor or anything set to block dbus calls, that has bitten me in the past too. But very few people actually try to use that stuff on nix... Before trying your suggestions, I tried installing Nautilus since I didn't have it. And now the file pickers seem to work. | 19:05:09 |
| Grimmauld (any/all) | huh | 19:05:20 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | Yeah. | 19:06:43 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | Though Nautilus doesn't have its icon for whatever reason. | 19:07:04 |
| @jaafar:kde.org | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
Though Nautilus doesn't have its icon for whatever reason. Nevermind; a quick log-out and log-in fixed that, too. | 19:10:36 |
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 jasi 🏳️⚧️ | In reply to @jaafar:kde.org
My wild guess is that it's something that has to do with my choice of display manager, which is COSMIC Comp rather than GDM. I know that GNOME needs GDM for "some features", but I don't know if the file picker is one of them. It might be that your portals setup is mangled due to this | 19:55:16 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Applications interact with the desktop's file picker via xdg desktop portals. | 19:55:51 |
