| 25 Nov 2025 |
 Capypara | found it, mutter bug: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/4416 | 12:53:32 |
| Capypara | fixed in mutter 49.2 | 12:54:21 |
| Capypara | Is there a PR that includes mutter 49.2? Otherwise I'd open a PR | 12:54:59 |
| Capypara | is it even OK to update mutter on it's own or would that require other packages bumped as well? I'll just try for now. | 13:01:42 |
| Capypara | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/464927 | 13:12:03 |
| 27 Nov 2025 |
|  conatsera joined the room. | 03:14:18 |
| Capypara | does somebody know where the NixOS GNOME team coordinates? None of them seem to be active here, I'd love to help out with the next updates, but don't really know the processes yet. | 16:43:57 |
| 28 Nov 2025 |
 jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Are there any users of geary, the GNOME mail client, here? I'm thinking of just submitting a request to remove it as it isn't part of GNOME core apps and the cinnamon module removed it in 24.11 | 16:49:15 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | I'm not sure whether to remove program module and the package, or just remove it from gnome.nix | 16:49:40 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | I want to remove the package since it's basically not receiving any new feature updates since GNOME 46 besides updating deps and not even Cinnamon ships it (and they keep all the old GNOME stuff) | 16:51:06 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Pantheon just switched to their own mail app because they're pantheon and they rock. | 16:53:40 |
 schuelermine | On my system when I open GNOME apps they always open with a delay of ~2 seconds. Anyone have a clue what might be the cause? From the terminal output it looks like they’re waiting for something on D-Bus | 22:20:43 |
| 29 Nov 2025 |
|  @naipotato:catgirl.cloud left the room. | 19:44:21 |
| 5 Dec 2025 |
 QuadRadical (Ping) | Yeah I use it | 02:57:59 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | Definitely don't remove it outright, its the only usable gtk mail client | 02:58:19 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | Not enabled by default is fine though | 02:58:31 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | I see, why not use thunderbird specifically? | 02:58:58 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | its kind of ugly | 03:00:38 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | geary with adw-gtk4 is nicer | 03:00:47 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | I'd prefer a GTK4/libadwaita app ofc | 03:02:23 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | but theres not a usable one | 03:02:28 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | I hope development picks up again on geary, but I think disabling it is the right decision to make. | 03:10:09 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | Thanks in the meantime though | 03:11:14 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | * | 03:11:45 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | * | 03:11:53 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | https://discourse.gnome.org/t/is-there-any-project-for-email-client-based-on-gtk-4/32828 | 03:12:43 |
| jasi 🏳️⚧️ | I'd hope there is a GNOME core email app in the future because that would really help with the contacts/calendar/online accounts integration. | 03:15:44 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | I think not having it enabled by default is fine, but it should still be an option | 03:16:53 |
| QuadRadical (Ping) | Someone is currently working on a gtk4 port, after all | 03:17:05 |
 Marcel | Evolution is integrated very well into online accounts. | 09:09:47 |
