| 18 Oct 2021 |
 Arian | * I want to start e.g. an accessibility tool | 17:42:44 |
 Jan Tojnar | I would try to start it with systemd but it probably will not work on Wayland | 17:46:39 |
| Jan Tojnar | or maybe patch gdm to support XDG_DATA_DIRS | 17:47:06 |
 piegames | The first GNOME update with the automatically packaged extensions, how to proceed? So the broad plan is that pkgs.gnomeExtensions always points to a more or less curated and up-to-date extension set that matches pkgs.gnome-shell. Since the merge of GNOME 41, this is not the case anymore. | 21:00:41 |
| piegames | My biggest issue with "simply bumping" is that a lot of extensions don't have declared support for GNOME 41 yet (actually, a lot of extensions I used to use have still not made the bump to | 21:01:43 |
| piegames | * My biggest issue with "simply bumping" is that a lot of extensions don't have declared support for GNOME 41 yet (actually, a lot of extensions I used to use have still not made the bump to 40). They would not be included in the package set, causing massive evaluation failures. | 21:02:15 |
| 19 Oct 2021 |
| Arian | Jan Tojnar: but the GDM greeter is a Wayland session these days no? | 08:22:38 |
| Arian | Redacted or Malformed Event | 08:23:55 |
| Jan Tojnar | Arian: yeah, probably would need to be disabled | 15:07:21 |
| Jan Tojnar | I have not been able to use onboard with wayland | 15:07:58 |
| Jan Tojnar | squeekboard supports "Wayland virtual keyboard protocol" but I am not sure how well supported that is | 15:08:53 |
| Jan Tojnar | especially since gnome does not support layer-shell | 15:09:19 |
| Jan Tojnar | https://gitlab.gnome.org/World/Phosh/squeekboard#what-the-compositor-has-to-support | 15:09:30 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: hmm, that is right – though previously, we used to mark incompatible extensions with meta.broken = true so that would have caused similar failures | 15:13:34 |
| Jan Tojnar | but then again, mass breaks were not that common | 15:14:20 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: but maybe we could have `gnomeExtensions = map markBroken gnome38Extensions // map markBroken gnome40Extensions // gnome41Extensions) | 15:17:13 |
| piegames | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
piegames: but maybe we could have `gnomeExtensions = map markBroken gnome38Extensions // map markBroken gnome40Extensions // gnome41Extensions) Yep, I'll aim for something like that. Don't bother with 3.38 though, since it's guaranteed to be incompatible. Also I'm a bit conservative on marking extensions as broken, since GNOME nowadays has built-in version checks. | 18:25:05 |
| piegames | Is there a reason one needs moderator privileges to invite new users? Would be cool to lift that | 19:20:44 |
| Jan Tojnar | possibly to reduce spam | 19:56:25 |
| Jan Tojnar | looks like it can be changed in permission settings | 19:58:06 |
| piegames | I've also encountered this on IRC before. It always weirds me out because I can still DM that person and tell them to go into that channel. So nothing's gained | 20:02:07 |
| piegames | Are the room settings managed globally for the entire Space? | 20:02:52 |
| 20 Oct 2021 |
 hpfr | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
hpfr: flatpak update https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/141913 thanks. unfortunately https://nixos.org/channels/nixos-unstable is still behind https://status.nixos.org, which I didn't even think was possible. shouldn't the status page wait until the channel itself actually updates? | 18:52:21 |
| 21 Oct 2021 |
| hpfr | apparently that's currently an issue https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-org-configurations/issues/169 | 00:36:47 |
| 23 Oct 2021 |
|  Félix | Totem joined the room. | 07:11:22 |
 Ronny | is there any recommended way to run a nix system configuration against/in a container for testing it (i'd like to avoid a vm if possilbe) | 15:26:18 |
| Ronny | argh, wrong channel | 15:26:27 |
| 24 Oct 2021 |
 jonringer | In reply to @ronnypfannschmidt:matrix.org
is there any recommended way to run a nix system configuration against/in a container for testing it (i'd like to avoid a vm if possilbe) nixos-rebuild build-vm. Then run it | 17:30:55 |
| jonringer | I know you said avoid, but I don't think you can | 17:31:57 |
| jonringer | as the nixos-configuration includes things like mountpoints from physical discs | 17:32:17 |
