| 7 Mar 2025 |
 Andrew | I do use several apps that are electron, that suck so much memory over time and in general, but if I kill em, I assume everything related to them should be removed from the memory. | 20:03:23 |
| Andrew | The 8 GiB more RAM usage with no apps, than all apps running on the startup | 20:03:54 |
| Andrew | * The 8 GiB more RAM usage with no apps at all, than all apps running on the startup | 20:04:03 |
 K900 | Have you looked at htop | 20:04:08 |
| K900 | Or any other tool | 20:04:10 |
| K900 | To figure out WHAT is actually taking up RAM | 20:04:14 |
| K900 | Or are you just looking at free and trying to guess | 20:04:21 |
| Andrew | well, there aren't many other stats to look at | 20:04:26 |
| K900 | There's htop | 20:04:32 |
| K900 | And slabtop if you want to look at kernel allocations | 20:04:40 |
| Andrew | I use btop | 20:04:47 |
| Andrew | if only they SHOWED WHAT is actually taking up RAM. but all process are shown as if they are innocent. | 20:05:44 |
| K900 | OK cool does it show what process is using the memory | 20:05:45 |
| K900 | So it doesn't? Even when run as root? | 20:05:55 |
| Andrew | idk, may /proc/pid stuff can show more RAM usage details per process | 20:06:05 |
| Andrew | wait, how would this differ? | 20:06:45 |
| Andrew | will it unlock hidden processes in btop? | 20:06:57 |
| K900 | It may show some additional kernel threads | 20:07:09 |
| Andrew | * idk, maybe /proc/pid stuff can show more RAM usage details per process | 20:07:09 |
| K900 | Though I would also try using htop | 20:07:12 |
| K900 | Because I do not fully trust btop to report this correctly | 20:07:20 |
| Andrew | hm | 20:07:45 |
| K900 | More specifically, htop and sort by M_RESIDENT | 20:07:59 |
| Andrew | 
Download image.png | 20:11:48 |
| K900 | Again, sort by M_RES | 20:12:06 |
| K900 | Not MEM% | 20:12:10 |
| Andrew | same | 20:12:23 |
| K900 | And what does the memory usage bar on the top right look like? | 20:12:37 |
| Andrew | top left? | 20:13:30 |
| Andrew | 
Download image.png | 20:13:34 |
