| 14 Nov 2024 |
 ElvishJerricco | well, then we definitely need to track down why the ISO is failing to start with wayland for some people | 17:32:26 |
 emily | also, I think the graphical installer would still install a (broken?) Wayland system | 17:32:28 |
| emily | yes, agreed with that :) | 17:32:32 |
| emily | just don't want to be pointing people towards an ~unmaintained codebase that upstreams are killing off | 17:32:56 |
| ElvishJerricco | I didn't realize it was being actively killed. I thought it was going to be around for a long while still | 17:34:34 |
| emily | well, the bits of the code that Xwayland (and a few other such servers) depend on are going to be maintained indefinitely | 17:36:56 |
| emily | but the other servers are basically on life support | 17:37:06 |
| emily | I imagine they'll continue getting security fixes / critical bug fixes for longer than GNOME/KDE/distros/etc. will actively ship them to users | 17:37:34 |
| emily | but they're very much basic maintenance mode already and that's only going to decrease | 17:37:45 |
| emily | Xorg devs have moved on to Wayland at this point | 17:38:03 |
| 15 Nov 2024 |
|  frontear joined the room. | 05:53:09 |
| frontear | pong | 05:53:14 |
| frontear | will continue here | 05:53:18 |
| ElvishJerricco | o/ | 05:53:20 |
| frontear | doing another quick build of the iso image, shouldnt take too long | 05:53:38 |
| frontear | unrelated but I like how the gnome iso is 2GB smaller with lz4 compression used for both. anyways booting with the debug flag and plymouth off | 05:56:25 |
| frontear | Interesting. | 05:57:23 |
| frontear | on here it actually uh | 05:57:26 |
| frontear | worked | 05:57:27 |
| frontear | no X11 either | 05:57:31 |
| frontear | hm wait a minute | 05:57:59 |
| frontear | XDG_SESSION_TYPE is reporting X11 | 05:58:07 |
| frontear | weird, i didnt select the X11 specialisation | 05:58:20 |
| ElvishJerricco | huh. I guess GDM is still detecting whether it wants to use X or wayland? | 05:58:45 |
| ElvishJerricco | if you log out of the session and use the icon in the lower right to choose the wayland session, does it start? | 05:59:14 |
| frontear | doesnt seem to have a wayland option in the lower right, or any corner for that matter | 05:59:56 |
| frontear | wonder if i should use the official iso | 06:00:05 |
| frontear | maybe the specialisation is messing this up? not sure | 06:00:24 |
| ElvishJerricco | shouldn't be | 06:00:28 |
| frontear | i know im definitely not selecting it | 06:00:29 |
