| 29 Nov 2023 |
 edgar.vincent | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
as much as i like fractal 5, i think i'm going back to element. there are a few usability issues that make it frustrating for me I agree. Just did that yesterday. Fractal is nice but it wasn't ready for a stable release IMHO. | 14:39:07 |
| edgar.vincent | Could anyone using ddterm tell me whether it works for them? | 14:39:54 |
 vcunat | In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
looks like there's a queued build for it https://hydra.nixos.org/build/242732063#tabs-details bumped, finished (but beware of the caching layers) | 14:48:42 |
|  Chris Berry joined the room. | 16:36:11 |
| edgar.vincent | Out of curiosity, what are the caching layers in question (I'm new to NixOS)? | 17:41:18 |
| vcunat | The CDN has some caching. And the local nix also. | 17:52:42 |
| vcunat | Even for non-existence in cache.nixos.org. | 17:53:17 |
| edgar.vincent | I see. Thanks. | 18:14:11 |
| vcunat | IIRC they all expire within an hour or less. | 18:15:50 |
 uep | In reply to @honnip:matrix.org
fractal 5 is on nixos-unstable but it does not seem to be cached 🤔 it was for me | 23:26:35 |
| 30 Nov 2023 |
 @adam:robins.wtf | the build i linked above is done now, so should be for everyone :) | 04:23:01 |
| edgar.vincent | Just tried and it's still trying to build it here on nixos-unstable (and failing with a OOM error despite my 16GB of RAM ^^) | 09:06:30 |
| uep | hm, yeah, just tried a nix shell nixpkgs#fractal and it's pulling in 600 crates in anticipation of building | 09:59:07 |
| uep | when I ran it the other day, I was pulling from the nixos-unstable-small branch | 09:59:38 |
| uep | I guess something bumped in the meantime and it's no longer cached? | 10:00:46 |
| vcunat | Well, when you use the master branch, you may not have all binaries 🤷 | 10:19:09 |
| uep | this is (this time) from -unstable | 10:19:48 |
| uep | which is now past where -small was the other day | 10:20:13 |
| uep | so something has invalidated the cached binary it found then | 10:21:13 |
| vcunat | Redacted or Malformed Event | 10:22:04 |
| uep | it is for me:
❯ nix registry list | grep nixpkgs
system flake:nixpkgs path:/nix/store/mdl8yp9lzzzjla69qm42sk96p15vym7d-source?lastModified=1701068326&narHash=sha256-vmMceA%2Bq6hG1yrjb%2BMP8T0YFDQIrW3bl45e7z24IEts%3D&rev=8cfef6986adfb599ba379ae53c9f5631ecd2fd9c
global flake:nixpkgs github:NixOS/nixpkgs/nixpkgs-unstable
pinned to the rev used to build the system
| 10:23:33 |
| vcunat | Yes, my bad. | 10:23:48 |
| uep | heh | 10:23:49 |
| vcunat | There was a transient failure in one dependency and that caused fractal not getting built that time: https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixpkgs/trunk/fractal.x86_64-linux | 10:24:16 |
| uep | anyway, it's still building.. not using all cores for some reason, but close to done | 10:24:32 |
| uep | built. happy to share the closure if anyone need | 10:52:04 |
| uep | * built. happy to share the closure if anyone needs
| 10:52:08 |
 @js:ukvly.org | uepthe build takes 40min-1h because they configured single threaded builds for releases
| 13:09:49 |
| @js:ukvly.org | but I really like fractal 5. feels more snappy than element. | 13:12:04 |
| @js:ukvly.org | it misses some features, but it's surprisingly solid for a non-element matrix client | 13:12:33 |
