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17 Oct 2023
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * I wonder, is cairo upgrade the only "breaking change" that has significant reach outside gnome DE and needs to be in 23.11?07:16:56
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18 Oct 2023
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
I wonder, is cairo upgrade the only "breaking change" that has significant reach outside gnome DE and needs to be in 23.11?
The other than thing is the new xdg portals config method
04:59:26
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat
In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
The other than thing is the new xdg portals config method
Can you easily guess if it's worth separating and merging earlier?
06:31:28
@ultra:beeper.comAlex S changed their display name from ultra (NixOS integrated with PackageKit wen) to Alex S.10:00:53
@hubofeverything:bark.lgbtHubble the Wolverine (they/them)
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Reading symbols from /nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/.tracker-extract-3-wrapped...
(No debugging symbols found in /nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/.tracker-extract-3-wrapped)

warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
[New LWP 5389]
[New LWP 5393]
[New LWP 5390]
[New LWP 5392]
[New LWP 5391]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/nix/store/whypqfa83z4bsn43n4byvmw80n4mg3r8-glibc-2.37-45/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
Core was generated by `/nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/tracke'.
Program terminated with signal SIGSYS, Bad system call.
#0  <signal handler called>
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7fdb2921c840 (LWP 5389))]
(gdb) bt
#0  <signal handler called>
#1  0x00007fdb29db21ab in sched_get_priority_max () from /nix/store/whypqfa83z4bsn43n4byvmw80n4mg3r8-glibc-2.37-45/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007fdb062e1cb5 in ?? () from /run/opengl-driver/lib/libcuda.so.1
#3  0x00007fdb067df0d2 in ?? () from /run/opengl-driver/lib/libcuda.so.1
#4  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
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19 Oct 2023
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20 Oct 2023
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@poweruser64:matrix.orgPowerUser64Hello! I'm wondering if there's any information on how I can test the gnome 45 PR. I assume it's usable right now?04:42:05
@uep:matrix.orguep check out the gnome branch locally, then nixos-rebuild switch with either --override-input nixpkgs <path> (flakes) or -I nixpkgs=<path> (channels) 05:27:47
@uep:matrix.orguep(or, if using flakes, just change your actual input to that branch if you prefer)05:29:17
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatYou'll need to rebuild lots of stuff, BTW.05:51:37
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatActually, this weekend I think Hydra could afford to rebuild this gnome branch for x86_64-linux. I assume you do want it? (devs of the branch primarily, though it will surely be useful to testers, too)05:57:56
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatSo the main question is whether/where to rebase before that happens.05:58:29
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * Actually, this weekend I think Hydra could afford to rebuild this gnome branch for x86_64-linux. I assume you do want it? (asking devs of the branch primarily, though it will surely be useful to testers, too) 05:58:50
@uep:matrix.orguepyeah I'm wary sometimes of how many other changes are missing on that branch since it was last merged/rebased06:27:24
@uep:matrix.orguepI have no stake in the answer but it seems like if there's going to be a hydra build it might as well be on all current other libs etc06:28:33
@uep:matrix.orguepjust kicked one off for curiosity: first big one is cairo -> chromium, and nom says I have 746 more builds waiting06:35:37
@uep:matrix.orguep(and about 1900 downloads total, which since this machine was up-to-date with unstable, suggests they're older non-gnome things I've probably already gc'd)06:40:48
@uep:matrix.orguep * (and about 1900 downloads total, which since this machine was up-to-date with unstable, suggests they're older non-gnome things I've probably already gc'd - also a bunch of sources of course)06:45:08
@uep:matrix.orguepoh, joy - libreoffice via openjdk and gnome-vfs; this will be a while :)06:57:32
@uep:matrix.orguepinteresting, cairo is being built twice, once for gtk3 with some different options presumably06:58:42
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
So the main question is whether/where to rebase before that happens.
Current staging-next might be a good base. There's still significant python package fallout apparently, and I see evolution not getting built right now, but other than that gnome-related stuff looked OK at a quick glance.
07:12:05
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatWe'll probably want it in nixpkgs master within days anyway.07:12:44
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat * We'll probably want it in nixpkgs master within several days anyway.07:12:57
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
Can you easily guess if it's worth separating and merging earlier?
I have not gotten around to reviewing those parts yet
07:14:44
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarWill try to finish the review on the weekend07:15:12
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar
In reply to @hubofeverything:bark.lgbt
Reading symbols from /nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/.tracker-extract-3-wrapped...
(No debugging symbols found in /nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/.tracker-extract-3-wrapped)

warning: core file may not match specified executable file.
[New LWP 5389]
[New LWP 5393]
[New LWP 5390]
[New LWP 5392]
[New LWP 5391]
[Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled]
Using host libthread_db library "/nix/store/whypqfa83z4bsn43n4byvmw80n4mg3r8-glibc-2.37-45/lib/libthread_db.so.1".
Core was generated by `/nix/store/mngainxz4xg8mzqgl4028lxij0jhqcpx-tracker-miners-3.5.3/libexec/tracke'.
Program terminated with signal SIGSYS, Bad system call.
#0  <signal handler called>
[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7fdb2921c840 (LWP 5389))]
(gdb) bt
#0  <signal handler called>
#1  0x00007fdb29db21ab in sched_get_priority_max () from /nix/store/whypqfa83z4bsn43n4byvmw80n4mg3r8-glibc-2.37-45/lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x00007fdb062e1cb5 in ?? () from /run/opengl-driver/lib/libcuda.so.1
#3  0x00007fdb067df0d2 in ?? () from /run/opengl-driver/lib/libcuda.so.1
#4  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
I guess the next step could be asking upstream in #tracker
07:19:40
@hubofeverything:bark.lgbtHubble the Wolverine (they/them)
In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
I guess the next step could be asking upstream in #tracker
There is a precedent issue https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/tracker-miners/-/issues/205 but it's old and I don't know what to add
11:34:36

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