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14 Jan 2022
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarthat is still an unstable version21:20:35
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso I think we need to make an exception for gimp and possibly neard?21:20:56
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar again, nothing in gnome should depend on gnome2 21:21:56
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar by the way, in the past I tried removing various libraries from gnome2 prefix and everything that depended on them 21:25:42
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarbut I mostly only managed to get rid of packages with few dependents, the remaining were too much work21:26:35
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarby the way, more cleanup https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/15483421:28:55
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * on a slightly different note, more cleanups https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/15483421:29:32
15 Jan 2022
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegames I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui, and the gtk-sharp mostly has to go as well, including all Gtk applications written in C# 01:47:45
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegames * I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui, and the gtk-sharp mostly has to go as well, including all Gtk applications written in C#. 01:47:47
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegames * I was naive and tried to remove libglade on a whim. This is probably only a third of the total fallout it will have. libglade is depended on by libgnomecanvas and libgnomeui. 01:49:39
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesPlease confirm that this is indeed the right thing to do and that I am not wasting my time on something that nobody actually wants.01:50:39
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar piegames: the reason I gave up on removing libglade last time because we actually want some of the packages that depend on it 02:16:09
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarlike calf02:16:18
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesAnd xournal (debatable)02:16:49
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarand we would first need to determine which are needed and which are good to remove02:17:00
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarwhich is enough work already02:17:18
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * which is enough work already for a one person02:17:25
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarand then there is the job of actually removing the dependencies where optional02:18:12
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarI believe the audio stuff can be built without GTK interface and most plug-ins do not actually use it but not being an audio guy, I do not know for sure02:19:05
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegames
In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
and then there is the job of actually removing the dependencies where optional
Only two cases; already done (for libglade)
02:19:20
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarso cooperation with the interested parties is also needed02:19:27
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegames* Only two cases; already done (for libglade) (only those that were explicitly marked as optional)02:20:21
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesI see02:20:39
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesThen this will continue to haunt us for a while02:20:51
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarbut you made more progress than I did02:21:06
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * you already made more progress than I have02:21:56
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesNah. It's low quality raging around and ripping things out without looking back. A lot of cleanup to do02:22:48
@hpfr:matrix.orghpfrBasic wireplumber module was merged. Is wireplumber/pipewire/pulse orthogonal to gnome, or are there things that gnome expects there?14:18:55
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarI believe GNOME still mostly uses pulse for audio19:09:13
@optimal:kde.orgTheOPtimal

Hi, I'm having a very weird and complicated issue:

GNOME is acting weird - the / and /boot filesystems show up in the Files sidebar, external storage isn't automounted, I don't see my user in the GNOME Control Center users panel among with a whole myriad of bugs and weirdness.

I've tracked down the issue to accountsservice - the library/daemon GNOME uses to manage user accounts. It seems it considers me both a local account, and a system account somehow. I ran the following commands in GNOME Looking Glass (Press Alt+F2 and type lg):

u = imports.gi.AccountsService.UserManager.get_default().get_user(imports.gi.GLib.get_user_name())

u.is_local_account()
u.is_system_account()

Both of these functions returned true - this is weird. Some help would be appreciated.

P.S. this happened later on in my installation - at first everything was fine. It could be something I've enabled.

I've also checked /etc/shells - my default shell is listed in there, so that couldn't be the problem.

21:20:19

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