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10 Jan 2022
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexawould it be fair to ask you guys to get rid of everything python2 in the gnome world?17:50:18
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * would it be fair to ask you guys to get rid of most everything python2 in the gnome world?17:50:22
@hexa:lossy.networkhexamost stuff that uses pygtk, pygobject2, pycairo (the python2 one)17:50:43
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesContext: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/14877917:51:11
@hexa:lossy.networkhexashould only be some remaining gnome-2 parts 17:51:44
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesSince when is GNOME 2 end of life? Would it be fair to remove it entirely while we're at it?17:53:53
@piegames:matrix.orgpiegamesGoogle says that the last release (2.32) was over a decade ago (2010)17:55:10
@sigmasquadron:matrix.orgSigmaSquadronGNOME 2 has been EOL since GNOME 3.2 launched, which was over 10 years ago.18:13:01
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAh yes, the great "no valid release" period, which spawned unity18:23:57
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@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar GNOME should not really depend on gnome2 21:13:12
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarsome random third party apps do21:13:25
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarand then there is stuff like chromium and java which depend on GConf and ORBit (we should probably remove those dependencies since those will probably not work without daemons anyway) but I am not sure if removing those dependencies does not require some patches21:16:17
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar hexa: also as mentioned on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/148779, pygtk is blocked by GIMP at least 21:18:15
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * hexa: also, as mentioned on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/148779, pygtk is blocked by GIMP at least 21:18:23
@hexa:lossy.networkhexayes, we can make an exception for gimp if need be21:18:55
@hexa:lossy.networkhexabut I wonder if 2.99.8 could work instead21:19:03
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pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python-desktop/default.nix
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pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/desktop/vte/default.nix
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexa *
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python-desktop/default.nix
pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python/default.nix
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pkgs/desktops/gnome-2/bindings/gnome-python/default.nix
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@hexa:lossy.networkhexathese are the offending files in the gnome namespace21:20:22
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarthat is still an unstable version21:20:35
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaso I think we need to make an exception for gimp and possibly neard?21:20:56
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar again, nothing in gnome should depend on gnome2 21:21:56
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar by the way, in the past I tried removing various libraries from gnome2 prefix and everything that depended on them 21:25:42
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarbut I mostly only managed to get rid of packages with few dependents, the remaining were too much work21:26:35
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarby the way, more cleanup https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/15483421:28:55
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * on a slightly different note, more cleanups https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/15483421:29:32

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