| 15 Jan 2022 |
 Jan Tojnar | and we would first need to determine which are needed and which are good to remove | 02:17:00 |
| Jan Tojnar | which is enough work already | 02:17:18 |
| Jan Tojnar | * which is enough work already for a one person | 02:17:25 |
| Jan Tojnar | and then there is the job of actually removing the dependencies where optional | 02:18:12 |
| Jan Tojnar | I believe the audio stuff can be built without GTK interface and most plug-ins do not actually use it but not being an audio guy, I do not know for sure | 02:19:05 |
 piegames | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
and then there is the job of actually removing the dependencies where optional Only two cases; already done (for libglade) | 02:19:20 |
| Jan Tojnar | so cooperation with the interested parties is also needed | 02:19:27 |
| piegames | * Only two cases; already done (for libglade) (only those that were explicitly marked as optional) | 02:20:21 |
| piegames | I see | 02:20:39 |
| piegames | Then this will continue to haunt us for a while | 02:20:51 |
| Jan Tojnar | but you made more progress than I did | 02:21:06 |
| Jan Tojnar | * you already made more progress than I have | 02:21:56 |
| piegames | Nah. It's low quality raging around and ripping things out without looking back. A lot of cleanup to do | 02:22:48 |
 hpfr | Basic wireplumber module was merged. Is wireplumber/pipewire/pulse orthogonal to gnome, or are there things that gnome expects there? | 14:18:55 |
| Jan Tojnar | I believe GNOME still mostly uses pulse for audio | 19:09:13 |
 TheOPtimal | Hi, I'm having a very weird and complicated issue:
GNOME is acting weird - the / and /boot filesystems show up in the Files sidebar, external storage isn't automounted, I don't see my user in the GNOME Control Center users panel among with a whole myriad of bugs and weirdness.
I've tracked down the issue to accountsservice - the library/daemon GNOME uses to manage user accounts. It seems it considers me both a local account, and a system account somehow. I ran the following commands in GNOME Looking Glass (Press Alt+F2 and type lg):
u = imports.gi.AccountsService.UserManager.get_default().get_user(imports.gi.GLib.get_user_name())
u.is_local_account()
u.is_system_account()
Both of these functions returned true - this is weird. Some help would be appreciated.
P.S. this happened later on in my installation - at first everything was fine. It could be something I've enabled.
I've also checked /etc/shells - my default shell is listed in there, so that couldn't be the problem.
| 21:20:19 |
| Jan Tojnar | interesting, I expected the the file system weirdness to be caused by udisks update | 22:16:44 |
| TheOPtimal | could be udisks | 22:18:06 |
| Jan Tojnar | the accountsservice heisenbug is known (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/84634) but so far I did not get to debug it properly | 22:18:47 |
| TheOPtimal | not the issue im having, and it has no solution either way | 22:28:41 |
| piegames | Where to ping xfce folks? Its top-level still depends on libglade, and I'm a bit scared of touching it. | 23:47:26 |
| 16 Jan 2022 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: that looks like a legacy alias | 00:46:57 |
| Jan Tojnar | it seems to have been introduced in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e979d7ad2f6fb2e5e7235be3100eb369572fcba5 | 00:51:07 |
| Jan Tojnar | previously it was just passed to packages that need it | 00:51:21 |
| Jan Tojnar | but now no xfce package seems to use it any more | 00:51:34 |
| piegames | Cool, thank you | 00:51:48 |
| Jan Tojnar | many of those ocaml programs are actually quite cool | 01:31:06 |
| Jan Tojnar | for example, I ran frama-c recently | 01:31:18 |
| piegames | I am sorry | 01:32:27 |
| Jan Tojnar | I will try to go through them and see if they can be built without libglade | 01:33:21 |
