| 15 Jan 2022 |
 Jan Tojnar | the accountsservice heisenbug is known (https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/84634) but so far I did not get to debug it properly | 22:18:47 |
 TheOPtimal | not the issue im having, and it has no solution either way | 22:28:41 |
 piegames | Where to ping xfce folks? Its top-level still depends on libglade, and I'm a bit scared of touching it. | 23:47:26 |
| 16 Jan 2022 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: that looks like a legacy alias | 00:46:57 |
| Jan Tojnar | it seems to have been introduced in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/commit/e979d7ad2f6fb2e5e7235be3100eb369572fcba5 | 00:51:07 |
| Jan Tojnar | previously it was just passed to packages that need it | 00:51:21 |
| Jan Tojnar | but now no xfce package seems to use it any more | 00:51:34 |
| piegames | Cool, thank you | 00:51:48 |
| Jan Tojnar | many of those ocaml programs are actually quite cool | 01:31:06 |
| Jan Tojnar | for example, I ran frama-c recently | 01:31:18 |
| piegames | I am sorry | 01:32:27 |
| Jan Tojnar | I will try to go through them and see if they can be built without libglade | 01:33:21 |
| piegames | The sad truth is that a shitload of applications still depend on python2 through gtk2. Including a few cool ones, like xournal. | 01:33:32 |
| Jan Tojnar | but at worse, we can still use them from archive | 01:33:40 |
| piegames | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
I will try to go through them and see if they can be built without libglade Please, this would be great. But given how many there are, just removing them is really tedious enough. | 01:34:10 |
| piegames | If this was only python2, the best way would be to patch the few gnome2 core libraries to build with python3 and then see what can be saved. But now, gtk2 is EOL as well … | 01:35:30 |
| Jan Tojnar | framac looks like it can be compiled with lablgtk3 https://git.frama-c.com/pub/frama-c/-/issues/149 | 01:45:36 |
| Jan Tojnar | presumably it does not need ocamlgraph since that does not: https://github.com/backtracking/ocamlgraph/issues/87 | 01:46:05 |
| Jan Tojnar | will open a PR | 01:46:12 |
| piegames | It would be cool if most of these packages had a maintainer that could put this much effort into them. I can only give everything the bulk treatment | 01:46:52 |
| Jan Tojnar | tilp should not need libglade https://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/news.html | 01:47:14 |
| Jan Tojnar | * tilp should not need libglade http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/news.html | 01:48:12 |
| Jan Tojnar | but looks like gfm still depends on glade 😿 | 01:53:10 |
| Jan Tojnar | and the github repo is hard to discover https://github.com/debrouxl/tilp_and_gfm | 01:53:58 |
| Jan Tojnar | camlimages only depend on lablgtk optionally https://gitlab.com/camlspotter/camlimages/-/blob/master/camlimages.opam | 01:54:31 |
| piegames | Thank you for digging into this. I'll try to spend a bit more time looking for fixes in the future. | 11:32:05 |
| piegames | Are there any drop-in replacements for gksu? | 13:11:14 |
 Zhaofeng Li | pkexec is the new one | 19:27:50 |
| Zhaofeng Li | ... but it's probably not drop-in | 19:28:15 |
| 20 Jan 2022 |
|  andi- left the room. | 00:11:36 |
