| 27 Aug 2021 |
 Jan Tojnar | it would likely be an issue in mutter or gtk or gnome-shell | 00:09:35 |
 andi- | I fear it is due to gtk2 being used by pinentry and backwards compat or something. | 00:10:18 |
| Jan Tojnar | might be; xwayland apps sometimes do weird things | 00:12:00 |
| Jan Tojnar | but I would still expect WM to be able to handle it | 00:12:27 |
| andi- | This didn't age well: https://superuser.com/questions/143044/how-to-prevent-new-windows-from-stealing-focus-in-gnome | 00:13:13 |
| andi- | Is compiz even still a thing? | 00:13:21 |
| Jan Tojnar | it is dead | 00:15:20 |
| Jan Tojnar | some people tried to bring the wobbly windows back to gnome (libanimation) | 00:16:44 |
| Jan Tojnar | but I do not think it went anywhere | 00:16:59 |
| andi- | It was fun in '05 or so but I never really saw why that would be any improvement. | 00:17:08 |
| Jan Tojnar | turn on flames and 3D cube and people will be in awe | 00:19:08 |
 Zhaofeng Li | Haha, desktop was fun back then. Wobbly windows is part of the reason some people installed Linux in the first place ๐ | 00:45:15 |
| * Zhaofeng Li used paper airplane animation for window closing for a long time | 00:46:11 |
| * Zhaofeng Li * used the paper airplane animation for window closing for a long time | 00:46:19 |
 piegames | I think you can still activate wobbly windows in KDE | 09:41:10 |
| 30 Aug 2021 |
| piegames | What's our way to handle GNOME extensions with run-time external dependencies? Is it okay to require that a dependency is available in the system path (as it would be done normally) or do we patch them so that use some specific path to the Nix store? | 18:18:16 |
 hexa | patching them is the more user-friendly way | 18:41:51 |
| hexa | leaking binaries into your PATH because you are using them under the hood is meh | 18:42:29 |
| piegames | No, but "requiring binaries in PATH" would be feasible | 18:43:06 |
| Jan Tojnar | piegames: generally, if it is mandatory/core functionality dependency, I tend to patch | 18:50:20 |
| Jan Tojnar | if it is optional but majority of users would probably want it, I tend to patch as well | 18:50:52 |
| Jan Tojnar | if it is optional and niche or too big or otherwise problematic, people who need it can install it themselves | 18:51:31 |
| piegames | I see, thanks | 18:51:40 |
| Jan Tojnar | as always, viewer discretion advised | 18:52:05 |
| hexa | piegames: means: make a conscious decision | 19:32:36 |
| Jan Tojnar | * as always, ~~viewer~~ discretion advised | 19:41:05 |
| Jan Tojnar | * as always, viewer discretion advised | 19:41:16 |
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