| 21 Jul 2022 |
 sjfloat | At the very least, we should be able to use this to share examples. But ideally we could create a test suite this way. | 11:44:26 |
| sjfloat | Also, we could create working audio environments just as we do for software development. | 11:47:42 |
| sjfloat | If anyone here is very acquainted with wireplumber, I may have some questions | 11:50:24 |
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If anyone here is very acquainted with wireplumber, I may have some questions For wireplumber questions the pipewire channel his helpful: https://matrix.to/#/#pipewire:matrix.org | 12:25:10 |
| sjfloat | Awesome. Thanks. | 12:43:46 |
| sjfloat | So, having spoken with folks at that channel, they don't seem to think that it's something the user would use much. Nor does there seem to be any docs for that audience. | 17:15:55 |
| sjfloat | However, I found that aj-snapshot still captures and restores alsa and jack connection graphs. | 17:16:20 |
| sjfloat | It stores the graph in an XML file, so I'm sure you could write and tweak them yourself. | 17:17:05 |
| sjfloat | And keep them under VC | 17:17:50 |
| sjfloat | I'm still considering going back to pulsewire though. My usual workflow for a long time has been to simply suspend it when things get serious. | 17:18:53 |
| sjfloat | And pipewire really seems to crush chrome on my box -- really painful. | 17:19:18 |
| sjfloat | These would be a very different thing than what people seem to be doing on NixOS though. On Debian, I started jack manually when I needed and didn't run it as a service. | 17:20:07 |
| sjfloat | * This would be a very different thing than what people seem to be doing on NixOS though. On Debian, I started jack manually when I needed and didn't run it as a service. | 17:20:48 |
| sjfloat | And I had different jack configs for different needs. Having it hardcoded in my system config has not been fun for me. | 17:22:02 |
| sjfloat | Has anyone had any luck with Cadence? | 20:55:25 |
| sjfloat | It installs, but it seems pretty much completely non-functional. | 20:55:44 |
| sjfloat | I'm guess in just totally incompatible with pipewire. | 20:57:44 |
| 22 Jul 2022 |
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| sjfloat | I'm seriously considering going back to pulse audio. Chrome is barely usable for me since switching to pipewire. | 16:37:38 |
| sjfloat | And there are jack tools that will never work with pipewire. | 16:38:13 |
| sjfloat | When I get a chance, I'd like to do more A/B performance testing. | 16:39:00 |
| 23 Jul 2022 |
| sjfloat | Several of the audio pages at https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Category:Audio are indicated as out of date. Would anyone be interested in helping me try amend that? | 14:11:58 |
| sjfloat | Actually, it would be good if there was a page for general audio. A lot of the confusion is around deciding what general config to chose. | 15:54:27 |
 Chris McDonough | TIL that sound.enable = true causes alsamixer persistence | 16:41:11 |
| Chris McDonough | did not know that | 16:41:14 |
| Chris McDonough | I have a hard time with wikis | 16:41:40 |
| sjfloat | So, you don't get that persistence otherwise? | 16:42:08 |
| Chris McDonough | apparently not? i guess it changes /etc/alsa.conf? | 16:42:30 |
| sjfloat | Ah | 16:42:38 |
