| 27 Jan 2024 |
 @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @rampoina:matrix.org
there's also supercollider ahhh right, supercollider is used in sonic-pi's backend somehow | 08:20:25 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | I just realized - nix shells might be a good way of doing temporary audio configuration changes, like a sample rate change! | 08:21:22 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @Minijackson:matrix.org
Calf in general has a lot of good plugins: https://calf-studio-gear.org/ Hmm, how did you make Ardour find the calf plugins? It was able to find a lot of these plugins in the default search paths after I installed them via my configuration.nix, but not the calf plugins, even though calfjackhost is installed. | 08:47:04 |
 Minijackson | In reply to @fractivore:cyberia.club
Hmm, how did you make Ardour find the calf plugins? It was able to find a lot of these plugins in the default search paths after I installed them via my configuration.nix, but not the calf plugins, even though calfjackhost is installed. you have to have this kind of config: https://github.com/musnix/musnix/blob/master/modules/base.nix#L77-L82 | 10:03:23 |
| Minijackson | make sure your $LV2_PATH var is correct and points to where your plugins are installed | 10:03:46 |
| Minijackson | and you should check that Ardour respects the $LV2_PATH value | 10:04:11 |
| Minijackson | (note: IIIRC the $VST3_PATH variable is not standard) | 10:04:39 |
| Minijackson | * (note: IIRC the $VST3_PATH variable is not standard) | 10:04:43 |
| Minijackson | In reply to @Minijackson:matrix.org
and you should check that Ardour respects the $LV2_PATH value if it doesn't, you should be able to override it in the settings | 10:05:35 |
| Minijackson | You can also check "Preferences > Plugins > Scan for plugins" to see if there's any plugins that Ardour failed to load | 10:06:49 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @Minijackson:matrix.org
you have to have this kind of config: https://github.com/musnix/musnix/blob/master/modules/base.nix#L77-L82 Oh right, I forgot about that part! Thanks again! | 14:45:25 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Is it a bad idea to make my musical collaborators use NixOS for working on projects together? 🤔 I've had issues in the past when me and a collaborator try to work on the same ardour project file - the problem is we don't have all the same plugins, which need to be manually installed to the same version. | 16:36:33 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | NIX IS basically completely solves this problem... But it's not something I would generally suggest to anyone that's not like already a super-technical open source nerd | 16:37:12 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | * NixOS basically completely solves this problem... But it's not something I would generally suggest to anyone that's not like already a super-technical open source nerd. But I feel like just using my config isn't too much to ask. But they'll probably have to use it through WSL.... | 16:37:55 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Dunno if this is a good idea or a highly efficient frustration generator for my band | 16:38:31 |
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| 28 Jan 2024 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | I think my bandmates can handle it, they're tech-savvy. I think we'll try it and it should become clear whether NixOS is actually helping in this situation or becoming more of a hindrance due to the technical overhead. | 02:26:31 |
 Rampoina | go for it, Nix band! | 05:27:39 |
| Rampoina | there was this DAW that was trying to solve this problem | 05:28:12 |
| Rampoina | I forgot the name | 05:28:22 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | So I decided to use musnix as a flake (to avoid the state associated with channels or cloning), and doing so had the effect of downgrading my ardour version from 8 to 7 🤔 | 06:39:37 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | I guess that must mean that the flake input chain pins that version somewhere? | 06:41:03 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | oof Ardour got broken in other ways too... Seems to have had JACK support removed completely. I'm gonna delete this flake and try the install via clone. | 07:16:47 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Probably I'm misusing the flake since this was my first attempt at using them. | 07:17:28 |
| Minijackson | that's weird, how did you import the flake, symys ? | 08:20:58 |
| Minijackson | reading the README, it should not have an impact on your nixpkgs version | 08:21:26 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | In reply to @Minijackson:matrix.org
that's weird, how did you import the flake, symys ? I had created a flake from scratch, in /etc/nixos/, that was a combination of a basic system configuration flake from the NixOS Wiki and the flake given for installation in the musnix repo. I may have also downloaded the flake.lock from the repo, I feel like that was wrong. I deleted all that and copied the installation flake to /etc/nixos/flake.nix. Ardour seems to be working properly with pipewire, and is the correct version now, but it still can't find some of the plugins I installed in my config. | 22:11:07 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | IDK, I think I have a full plugin suite without Calf, although I like those plugins. I might just do without them for now. | 22:12:30 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | I don't want to have to do any kind of stateful configuration. | 22:12:47 |
| @fractivore:cyberia.club | Hmm, not actually able to get sound from my audio interface, though pipewire can clearly stat it and I can route audio around successfully to other devices 🤔 | 23:09:57 |
