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9 May 2022
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátI'd treat it the same as queued.09:06:41
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátA state somewhere between failure and success.09:07:05
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßHm, does that make the graph go up or not? :D09:07:56
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß I currently skip all evals which have queued != 0 09:08:17
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátHehe... you might estimate from the last status of the same job (skipping over queued and cancelled).09:08:39
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátBut I understand if that's considered too complex to do now.09:08:55
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßAnd potentiall to heavy for Hydra :/ If you cancel a whole eval, I'd have to crawl every build twice (or three times?) (the aborted build and the "last previous success/fail")09:09:43
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátRight, if there are too many of cancelled/queued, you probably want to skip that eval anyway.09:15:06
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát * Right, if there are too many of cancelled+queued, you probably want to skip that eval anyway (for now).09:15:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátBut often it doesn't seem optimal to wait because of a couple straggling builds.09:18:20
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát * But often it doesn't seem optimal to wait because of a couple straggler builds.09:18:55
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát * But often it doesn't seem optimal to wait just because of a couple straggler builds.09:20:04
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßSo it begins10:04:09
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunáthttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/17216010:05:28
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßah I should cross-post this to discourse10:05:55
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) joined the room.10:25:45
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß So Robert Hensing (roberth) grahamc (he/him): I wanted to finish up the discussion about the initial tag for the upcoming release. Graham said there might be tools that rely on the tag being named that way, do you think its enough to announce the upcoming change now and hope everybody relying on this fixes their scripts? I really understand Robert's motivation here and I think it would be a relevant improvement and make this more clear 12:38:38
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
So Robert Hensing (roberth) grahamc (he/him): I wanted to finish up the discussion about the initial tag for the upcoming release. Graham said there might be tools that rely on the tag being named that way, do you think its enough to announce the upcoming change now and hope everybody relying on this fixes their scripts? I really understand Robert's motivation here and I think it would be a relevant improvement and make this more clear
The main thing is git describe
16:13:16
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
[09:14:21] jon@nixos ~/projects/nixpkgs (release-21.11)
$ git describe
21.11-3617-g1f8e77dfaea
16:14:35
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer

actually, for hydra this might not be too much of a concern:

  version = fileContents ../.version;
  versionSuffix =
    (if stableBranch then "." else "beta") + "${toString (nixpkgs.revCount - 291486)}.${nixpkgs.shortRev}";

And this gets updated as part of the release process

16:17:25
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßcouldn't we just … not tag at all?16:19:55
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerSo, we used to tag because there was an explicit beta period16:20:40
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerbut I kind of did away with that with "ZHF on master" RFC16:20:57
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerand just treated master during ZHF as the beta16:21:21
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßah the XX.XX-beta tag?16:22:03
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerYea16:27:08
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAlso I'm getting married on saturday, and then going on a honeymoon soon after, so I won't be able to participate in this ZHF as much as I have in the past16:42:52
@linus:schreibt.jetztLinux HackermanOh wow congratulations!16:43:04
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátI'd think ZHF is the perfect programme for a honeymoon 😏16:46:31
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringershe would disagree16:47:05

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