| 29 Oct 2022 |
 Vladimír Čunát |
Restrict all breaking changes with the exception of desktop environments
I don't expect we really need that exception anymore, after shifting from .3 + .9 to .5 + .11. But either way it's mainly on contributors to behave reasonably.
| 12:31:54 |
| 31 Oct 2022 |
|  underpantsgnome changed their display name from underpantsgnome! to underpantsgnome. | 20:22:45 |
| 3 Nov 2022 |
 hexa | given that fridh is still working on a python updates run | 21:21:41 |
| hexa | I think ZHF on the 7th sounds too optimistic | 21:22:03 |
| Vladimír Čunát | So, you certainly want it included in the release? | 21:31:44 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I mean, it often brings breaking changes (I think) and it's November already. | 21:32:15 |
| Vladimír Čunát | The schedule doesn't even allow breaking changes at this point already. | 21:33:22 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * The schedule doesn't even allow breaking changes today already. | 21:33:31 |
| hexa | not sure what FRidh is aiming for here tbh | 21:52:58 |
| hexa | because it looks like minor updates, but if it wasn't meant for this cycle he could do major ones as well | 21:53:19 |
|  ncfavier joined the room. | 23:44:32 |
| 4 Nov 2022 |
| hexa | to recap: I'm not 100% sure what to do 🙂 | 11:19:49 |
 Janne Heß | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
to recap: I'm not 100% sure what to do 🙂 Ask him to PR against master instead? If you say "minor updates" I expect no mass rebuilds | 12:27:56 |
| hexa | still a bulk update consisting of a larger number of minor updates | 12:29:18 |
| hexa | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/198024 | 12:29:36 |
| Janne Heß | So it's either "please do it against master" or "please don't do it until branch-off" or "please do it ASAP and we will start ZHF later", or am I missing something? | 12:30:06 |
| hexa | yeah, I'm inclined to go with option 3 | 12:30:38 |
| Janne Heß | I mean we can also merge this into ZHF but that's ugly imo | 12:30:47 |
 Sandro 🐧 | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
Ask him to PR against master instead? If you say "minor updates" I expect no mass rebuilds a minor update deep down the dependency chain still causes a mass rebuild | 12:30:57 |
| Janne Heß | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
yeah, I'm inclined to go with option 3 I think it would make sense to ask on an ETA. Pusing ZHF a couple of days is okay imo but it shouldn't go on too long | 12:52:52 |
| hexa | agreed | 12:53:07 |
| hexa | would probably help if someone chimed in 😄 | 12:53:14 |
 Mic92 | Winter (she/her): do you need help with the release notes? | 18:28:40 |
 Winter (she/her) | In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
Winter (she/her): do you need help with the release notes? I'm not really sure when I should start collecting all of that -- is now a good time? Like, we need to figure out what we should actually include etc (cc hexa)
So yes. | 18:39:24 |
| Winter (she/her) | I can handle preliminary writing and such, but I just don't know what to include. | 18:39:37 |
| hexa | we should probably create a list of all changes | 18:42:18 |
| hexa | and start filtering together | 18:42:23 |
| Winter (she/her) | agreed | 19:09:27 |
| Winter (she/her) | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
we should probably create a list of all changes starting with the current in-tree changelog maybe? | 19:09:43 |
| hexa | yep, then we have a date up until we have reviewed changes and can incrementellay review the missing ones | 19:10:29 |
