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@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
You don't plan dropping x86_64-darwin anytime soon, I guess?
No, both would still be supported. This is just about not being able to link packages on <10.14.
18:37:59
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatOK. I meant it only as a loosely related, and half-joking.18:39:00
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfso they could consume cached packages, but not build (link) them themselves?18:39:01
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @wegank:matrix.org
And I intend to postpone this change to early June, to give macOS 10.12 and 10.13 users a six-month grace period
So targeting 24.11, essentially? (Though given that unstable is the default, it’s essentially effective immediately.)
18:39:28
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
so they could consume cached packages, but not build (link) them themselves?
Correct. The linker uses a ton of GCD stuff that’s only available in 10.14+. It may be possible to build libdispatch from source or user a portable replacement. I haven’t looked into those in detail yet.
18:41:20
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy Eckenrode
In reply to @wegank:matrix.org
And I intend to postpone this change to early June, to give macOS 10.12 and 10.13 users a six-month grace period
* So targeting 24.11, essentially? (Though given that unstable is the default, it would affect many immediately.)
18:41:43
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeIf the decision is to push it to June after the release, I can post an announcement in the Darwin news thread on Discourse. Not sure where else it should be announced?18:42:29
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
If the decision is to push it to June after the release, I can post an announcement in the Darwin news thread on Discourse. Not sure where else it should be announced?
Also in the release announcement
18:45:30
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeThat this is the last release for 10.12 and 10.13 users I assume.18:46:52
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI’ll post in the Darwin news thread now so unstable users aren’t taken completely by surprise.18:47:23
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
That this is the last release for 10.12 and 10.13 users I assume.
Yes, and that they should stay on nixpkgs-24.05-darwin instead of bumping to latest unstable
18:48:02
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia
In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
That this is the last release for 10.12 and 10.13 users I assume.
* Yes, and that they should stay on nixpkgs-24.05-darwin instead of bumping to latest unstable before upgrading their systems
18:48:25
@wegank:matrix.orgWeijia * Yes, and that they should stay on nixpkgs-24.05-darwin instead of bumping to latest unstable before upgrading to macOS 10.14+ 18:49:08
@adam:robins.wtf@adam:robins.wtfwouldn't the majority of users have already upgraded to 10.14+ if they could?18:49:58
@reckenrode:matrix.orgRandy EckenrodeI asked in the infra channel. Wr have no information on what people are running. This is a conservative approach to avoid unwelcome surprises.18:55:49

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