| 18 Nov 2025 |
 leona | I don't like changing the release date once more to (then probably) December | 08:15:43 |
| leona | I'd like to know jopejoe1s opinion tho.. | 08:15:46 |
 jopejoe1 (4094@epvpn) | Would prefre not rebuilding stdenv this late into the last staging-next cycle before branch off, and would want to have the rebuild count as small as possible, so going with somethig like @leona:leona.is suggested and then doing a revert and full fix on staging (with backport). | 08:34:00 |
| leona | i can try something out in around 3 hours, if someone beats me to that that's very welcome. I don't know very much about darwin stdenv at the moment | 08:36:24 |
| leona | from what I read, this should be possible, but I'm not sure how much work is needed | 08:36:47 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Side not: IMO it's wrong to leave big fixes to release managers. | 08:59:13 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Side not: IMO it's (generally) wrong to leave big fixes to release managers. | 08:59:35 |
| leona | nargh | 13:05:32 |
| leona | at least currently I don't get it to work | 13:05:44 |
| leona | and my circulation is a bit off today, so I'm not at my best either. | 13:06:35 |
| leona | the idea is relatively simple, having a seperate python3Stdenv package that is used for llvm and other things in the darwin stdenv. but for now it's still at various kinds of broken | 13:07:28 |
| leona | sorry, I'm not feeling good. I don't think I can finish that or any larger decisions or things today | 14:50:47 |
 hexa | take care! | 14:52:58 |
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| jopejoe1 (4094@epvpn) changed their display name from jopejoe1 to jopejoe1 (4094@39c3). | 20:19:21 |
| 19 Nov 2025 |
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| 20 Nov 2025 |
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 raboof | we're planning a small ZHF hackday event in NL the 29th - that still makes sense even if it's a bit close to the release, right? depending on the release we'll have some time to dig into a deeper issue, or help out new contributors get their bearings | 14:22:08 |
| jopejoe1 (4094@epvpn) | Yes, of course, fixing packages is even helpful when we are not in the ZHF, soo still good to send in fixes on the last day of ZHF, but remember to backport them ^^ | 14:31:24 |
| raboof | * we're planning a small ZHF hackday event in NL the 29th - that still makes sense even if it's a bit close to the release, right? depending on the turnout we'll have some time to dig into a deeper issue, or help out new contributors get their bearings | 14:36:43 |
| raboof | * we're planning a small ZHF hackday event in NL the 29th - that still makes sense even if it's a bit close to the release, right? depending on who shows up we'll have some time to dig into a deeper issue, or help out new contributors get their bearings | 14:36:54 |
| 21 Nov 2025 |
 ners | I once ran a ZHF that was after the release. We then joked that we're participating in the next ZHF very early. 🙃 | 08:11:20 |
| ners | * I once ran a ZHF that was just a few days after the release. We then joked that we're participating in the next ZHF very early. 🙃 | 08:11:35 |
| ners | Fixes are aways good to get in. | 08:11:38 |
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| 22 Nov 2025 |
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| Quirin Brändli | I got a quick question just out of curiosity:
While the feature freeze time was ongoing, the full master branch was frozen for 3 weeks, right? That means that nixos-unstable was frozen as well, right? | 00:05:27 |
| hexa | nothing is frozen | 00:21:59 |
| hexa | it is open for fixes and non-breaking changes | 00:22:07 |
| hexa | nixos-unstable also gets built during feature freeze | 00:22:28 |
