| 6 May 2024 |
 Alyssa Ross | but don't let me stop you doing a lobal | 11:45:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | either would be better than nothing | 11:46:10 |
| Alyssa Ross | I'd even like branches for future releases tbh, to handle stuff like turning deprecation warnings into hard errors, so you don't have to remember to come back in 6 months | 11:46:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | I missed my opportunity to remove some APIs in 24.05 that I'd planned to | 11:46:44 |
 pbsds | i believe there usually is a board in https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects where todos for the next release can be added. One for 24.11 should pop up once 24.05 is tagged | 11:55:10 |
|  Charles changed their display name from Charles ⚡️ to Charles. | 17:01:07 |
 Arian | I'm wondering if we need a "Release Criticial Modules" list too in future releases: https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Critical-Packages.html
I'd add systemd, dbus and switch-to-configuration to them given the mess I caused with dbus-broker revert :') | 19:49:21 |
| 7 May 2024 |
|  riotbib joined the room. | 12:09:57 |
| riotbib | knock … I'm back | 12:10:10 |
| riotbib | could someone change the topic to 24.05 "Uakari"? | 12:11:08 |
| riotbib | (this is lennart, I regained access to my old Matrix account) | 12:11:46 |
|  Weijia changed the room topic to "24.05 "Uakari" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html" from "23.11 "Tapir" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html". | 12:11:56 |
| 10 May 2024 |
 ma27 | so I just realized that postgresql12 will be EOL on nov 14 which is within the supported range of 24.05. opinions on removing/keeping it? we're past the breaking change restriction of may 1 already.
also am I right with my interpretation of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/303285 that current staging will be merged into staging-next and that's the second staging cycle for 24.05? asking for a few postgresql updates. | 09:10:05 |
 hexa | we have on staging cycle remaining before branch-off | 09:13:55 |
| hexa | * we have one staging cycle remaining before branch-off | 09:14:00 |
| hexa | and I'm pro removal of postgresql12 🙂 | 09:14:39 |
| Alyssa Ross | oh right — do package removals count as breaking changes? I have a couple I've been holding off on merging because I wasn't sure. | 09:49:13 |
 Vladimír Čunát | I'd say they do, at least if the packages worked, etc. (there will be some gray cases surely) | 09:51:54 |
| Weijia | I guess yes, but I won't block them if they're considered pre-release cleanups. | 09:52:33 |
| Weijia | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Feature-Freeze-Announcement.html#pre-release-cleanup | 09:52:52 |
| Alyssa Ross | aha okay | 09:53:21 |
| Alyssa Ross | I'm thinking of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/308820 and https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/310170, so I guess both of those would be fine? | 09:53:44 |
| Weijia | Yeah | 09:54:48 |
| hexa | thunderbird 102 is a big security nono 🙂 | 15:58:47 |
| hexa | we can't keep it around | 15:58:54 |
| hexa | the alternative would be to mark it vulnerable and remove it post branchoff | 15:59:25 |
| Alyssa Ross | it's been marked vulnerable since september IIRC | 16:02:22 |
| Alyssa Ross | i.e. we forgot to remove it after the last branch-off | 16:03:02 |
| 12 May 2024 |
|  NixOS Moderation Bot unbanned  nrdxp. | 17:09:18 |
| 13 May 2024 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Hydra queue looks like today or tomorrow we'd be able to start a new staging-next iteration. Schedule says that in two days we should start the last staging-next iteration (the last one reaching 24.05 at least). | 16:38:02 |
